The Untold Story of Heart Disease - Episode 1: The Big Fat Cover Up
The Untold Story of Heart Disease - Episode 1: The Big Fat Cover Up
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In this video we reveal:
1. How humans have been eating fat for millennia, yet Heart Disease has only been a concern for the past 100 years. How does that even make sense?
2. Where things went so horribly wrong for Heart Disease. The fork in the road, where the wrong path was chosen by one VERY influential person…
3. Why leading cardiologists, like renowned expert Dr. Malhotra in the UK, say that eating saturated fat can be protective.
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36.88 -> Welcome to the untold story of heart disease I'm
your host Matt Carter. Thanks for joining me as I
42.96 -> take you on a journey of uncovering the true cause
of the number one killer worldwide heart disease
49.28 -> responsible for one in three deaths it kills more
people each year than all forms of cancer combined
55.28 -> and over the age of 40 the risk rises dramatically
high blood pressure stress obesity diabetes
61.2 -> they're all serious risk factors every two seconds
somebody in the world falls victim but what's most
67.44 -> frightening is that many people have no idea they
even have heart disease until they die from it in
72.96 -> approximately 50 percent of cases the first sign
of heart disease is sudden death children lose
79.2 -> their parents years of marriage abruptly ending in
a matter of seconds however what's more disturbing
86.24 -> is that what most people think causes heart
disease may be far from accurate a growing number
92.4 -> of experts who you'll hear from in this series
are sounding the alarm and warning people that
98.16 -> what we've been told about the cause of heart
disease may not be true many of these experts
103.84 -> claim the actual causes have been known for
years with the science to prove it but it's
108.96 -> largely ignored by mainstream what they reveal is
both shocking and controversial yet it's also very
115.36 -> liberating at the same time having lost a number
of my own family and friends to heart disease
120.72 -> and with many more medicated for cholesterol
and blood pressure i just wanted to know the
125.92 -> truth and being a husband and a father i want to
do everything that i can to ensure i'm around to
131.52 -> support my family you see before setting out on
this worldwide mission to find out the truth about
136.64 -> heart disease i was unwell 35 pounds overweight
i suffered from painful joints severe headaches
144.48 -> constant ringing in my ears burning reflux
disorder elevated blood pressure and to top
149.92 -> it all off i got diagnosed with cancer for years
my wife urged me to address my health but to my
156.08 -> shame i didn't listen i had plenty of warning
signs but i foolishly ignored them all and it took
161.76 -> a major health scare to snap me out of my delusion
and start taking responsibility for my own health
168 -> thankfully now i'm in the best shape of my life
because i learned to address the root cause of my
173.6 -> problems and i personally wasn't satisfied with
the answers that i was getting from my doctor
178.96 -> largely coming in the form of prescriptions i
found it frustrating that my typical doctor's
184.64 -> visit lasted only about 10 minutes and they
never seem to ask much about my diet or lifestyle
191.04 -> with my queries about getting to the cause of my
ailments usually receiving a vague answer often
196.48 -> involving something to do with just getting older
this wasn't enough for me i wanted to get to the
201.6 -> root cause and actually fix my problems and with
heart disease being a major issue running in my
207.52 -> family i decided to do my own research and i spent
two years tracking down the best integrative heart
214.64 -> disease experts that i could find that had
a proven track record to match i personally
220.4 -> interviewed over 40 of these experts and it
quickly dawned on me that mainstream's view on
226 -> heart disease in all its forms such as high blood
pressure and cholesterol heart attacks strokes
231.84 -> is all missing the mark some even claiming this
is due to powerful corporate influence over health
238.96 -> however not everything mainstream believe is
misguided smoking for example is clearly bad for
244.48 -> heart disease as is stress but unfortunately there
are key areas where mainstream fall down which
251.28 -> many experts in this series reveal has enormous
consequences as you watch the series you'll hear
258.08 -> these experts reveal a number of hidden dangers
they claim are the true drivers of heart disease
264.16 -> and the scary thing is that most people are
exposing themselves to these dangers on a daily
269.44 -> basis you probably won't hear these things from
your local doctor but it's not their fault as
275.76 -> they're not being told this stuff either whether
you currently have heart disease or have already
281.12 -> suffered a heart attack or a stroke or maybe
you have high blood pressure or cholesterol
286.08 -> or a poor blood flow related condition like
erectile dysfunction or painful extremities
291.6 -> or perhaps you too have a family history of
heart disease and just want to do everything
296 -> you can to avoid it whatever your reason is make
sure you watch this entire series as we get to
302.08 -> the root cause covering many important topics
such as cholesterol eating fat statin drugs
308.56 -> high blood pressure food addiction weight loss
diabetes and more all while revealing the true
314.08 -> cause of heart disease i believe what you'll
learn in this series will not only empower you
318.64 -> to stay healthy and potentially avoid a health
crisis you'll be in the position to share this
323.6 -> knowledge with your family and friends who may
need it too thanks for joining me on this quest
329.04 -> to learn the truth as together we hear the untold
story of heart disease let's begin our journey
345.52 -> so there are millions of people with established
heart disease roughly 16 million in the u.s for
350.8 -> example but if you think about people who are
at risk we're talking about probably half the
356.48 -> population so the the studies show that about
a third of all people in westernized societies
364 -> will suffer a heart attack or stroke as their
cause of death one out of three of us is walking
369.52 -> around with some significant risk or significant
disease already among all the the diseases in
377.12 -> in the of all the western western societies
heart disease is by far number one it kills
383.6 -> more people per year than all cancers combined
people don't often realize that and unfortunately
390.4 -> there's a lot more focus on sometimes on
certain cancers that are important but
396.88 -> don't claim as many lives as heart disease
and i think sometimes the message gets lost
401.36 -> when people are hyper focusing on a disease that's
becoming less and less common women are not spared
407.68 -> when for women as well cardiovascular disease
claims 500 000 lives a year versus breast cancer
415.52 -> which claims maybe you know 46 000. you know
depending on where we're looking in countries and
422.08 -> so on so much bigger problem for women well i
was in great shape and i exercised regularly i
430.4 -> was competitive bodybuilder i had a healthy diet
and on record i have perfect blood pressure i've
436.64 -> never smoked no family history of heart disease uh
no diabetes my cholesterol profile was very good
444.88 -> and i awakened when the middle of the night with
with heartburn i thought it was heartburn to make
450.8 -> a long story short ended up in the hospital the
next day after 12 hours of saying this can't be
455.76 -> my heart um and i write about this in my book but
you know here i am in cedars-sinai medical center
462.88 -> in los angeles and i'm in the throngs of
what they call a stuttering heart attack
469.52 -> if you really want to know why heart disease
rates all over the world are skyrocketing
474.48 -> and what you can do to prevent it then why
not join our heart disease code program today
480.24 -> the program is the most comprehensive
heart disease prevention program anywhere
485.36 -> included in the program is the nine steps to fight
and prevent heart disease book which covers many
490.72 -> important topics such as high blood pressure
cholesterol heart attacks strokes erectile
496.16 -> dysfunction and more plus get full access to the
untold story of heart disease documentary series
504.32 -> the series contains over 10 hours of interviews
with more than 40 natural health experts including
511.28 -> world-leading cardiologists doctors scientists
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517.36 -> and prevent heart disease each episode comes with
a companion guide with short quizzes to accelerate
523.6 -> your learning along with dozens of delicious
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529.84 -> and a guide for the best supplements to take
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536.08 -> all this and more can be yours just by
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546.24 -> if you look at the risk for first heart attack
half the people who have a heart attack have no
555.28 -> symptoms prior to their heart attack and it can be
higher depending on whether you're male or female
561.04 -> some of the statistics actually 65 of men have
their first heart attack before any symptoms occur
569.04 -> they drop dead and destroy anybody
is at risk for heart attack
574.24 -> it happened to me and i was least likely when
i was at cedars-sinai they said you can't have
578.56 -> a heart attack you know they i was like the least
likely person to have it it could happen to anyone
583.92 -> a month after my heart attack which was very
mild fortunately my nurse at the time had
589.92 -> a massive stroke in church on christmas eve and
subsequently passed so this could happen to anyone
599.28 -> any gender any socioeconomic class so we have
to always keep that in mind it's still the
605.92 -> number one killer in this country and in
the western world they die in their sleep
610.8 -> or they they just drop dead at work and it's
really tragic because those are avoidable
616.72 -> all we needed was to find out if they had
risk and we could have addressed that risk
624.96 -> in episode one we go back to where things went
horribly wrong for heart disease the fork and
630.32 -> the road where the wrong path was chosen you're
about to hear the fascinating and disturbing story
636.48 -> of one highly persuasive man whose dominating
character enabled him to affect health policy
642.88 -> for the worse across the entire western world when
we share what you're about to learn with people
649.2 -> the most common response is how could this
possibly happen it is hard to believe but
654.24 -> it's true for decades we've been told to decrease
consumption of fat as it clogs arteries like a
661.2 -> blocked kitchen sink men women children all of
us but what if the science was never there to
666.96 -> support this theory in the first place humans have
been eating fat for millennia yet heart disease
672.48 -> has only been a concern for the past 100 years
and since the inception of the low-fat movement
678.56 -> there's been an explosion of poor health
across the world your fork is potentially
683.52 -> the most powerful device for health that you
have what you put on the end of it really does
687.84 -> matter we all need to ask critical questions
and never be bullied when it comes to the
692.8 -> health and well-being of your family in episode
1 you'll learn the facts on fat and heart disease
707.12 -> well the story really begins in the 1950s when in
the u.s the nation was in a real panic about the
713.52 -> rising tide of heart disease that had come from
pretty much out of nowhere in the early 1900s to
718.16 -> be the number one killer in the nation president
eisenhower himself had a heart attack in 1955 and
723.84 -> was out of the out of office for 10 whole days and
nobody knew what causes heart disease and there
729.6 -> were a number of competing theories some people
said it was vitamin deficiency others said it was
734.16 -> the rising amount of auto exhaust others said it
was a type a personality you know too much stress
740.08 -> but there was one theory proposed by
a physiologist named ansel keys from
743.84 -> the university of minnesota and it was his
idea that it was saturated fat and dietary
748.24 -> cholesterol that would clog your arteries like
oil down a cold stove pipe and that would give
755.68 -> you a heart attack that was called the diet heart
hypothesis and that is where the whole story began
762.24 -> if you go back into the 50s and 60s there was
an appreciation that there was a problem with
770.24 -> heart attacks and nobody really knew the etiology
of these events and one of the early theories was
780.16 -> because you could identify cholesterol crystals in
the atherosclerotic plaque that maybe cholesterol
787.92 -> was causative of it so that was the initial theory
that cholesterol actually caused atherosclerosis
795.84 -> ansel keyes was able to get his idea implanted
into the american heart association and in 1961
803.04 -> the american heart association comes out with
the first ever advice anywhere in the world to
807.76 -> avoid saturated fat and cholesterol to prevent
heart attacks that was the beginning of all the
814.48 -> advice that we have all over the world today it
really started with the american heart association
818.96 -> what was the evidence at the time there was
really just one study that ansel keys himself
823.68 -> had done called the seven countries study i looked
into that study in great detail because it's so
828 -> incredibly important it's like the big bang
of nutrition science if you read ten thousand
833.2 -> studies on nutrition as i unfortunately have done
they all telescope back to this seven country
838 -> studies so it's incredibly important that study
was done on nearly 13 000 men in seven countries
843.84 -> mainly in europe but also in the us and japan and
it followed them looked at what they ate measured
849.36 -> their cholesterol and then followed them to see
who died of a heart attack or something else
854.24 -> what ansel keys found in that study was what
he had hoped to find because he was already
859.52 -> completely invested in this hypothesis he found
that people who didn't eat as much saturated fat
864.8 -> seemed to have a less of a risk for dying of a
heart attack there were so many problems with
869.76 -> this study when i looked into it i mean first
of all it's a kind of study that can only show
873.6 -> association it can't show cause and effect that's
just a basic problem with this kind of science
880.24 -> so these people maybe they didn't eat that
much saturated fat but what else were they
884.4 -> not eating a lot of they weren't eating a lot
of sugar it turned out could it have been the
887.84 -> sugar was it the saturated fat in this kind of
study you never know the answer to that question
892.72 -> the story of ansel keys and how this
all went wrong there were so many
897.2 -> ways to talk about this poor ancel keys
has been demonized by the people in our
902.4 -> neck of the woods in terms of medicine
functional medicine and nutrition
906.72 -> and probably with some good cause he was the
person who gave us the low fat diet indirectly
912.08 -> but he gave us the low-fat diet he gave us
the notion of fat and cholesterol clogging
917.28 -> our arteries and of these things actually causing
heart disease the story of how he got that notion
924.88 -> to be accepted from the health authorities like
the american heart association is such a rich
931.36 -> tale of intrigue and personality and and influence
and politics it's it's remarkable study but it's
938.24 -> a study more in social psychology than it is
in nutrition ethyl keys definitely did a lot
943.76 -> of harm to our society by convincing people
that they should be on a low-fat diet it was
949.04 -> it's a devastating idea and and it's just um
i suspect that it tied into the fact that they
956.4 -> had discovered these statin drugs and they had
they knew they would have a market for the drugs
960.8 -> if they could convince people that cholesterol was
bad that you could lower the ldl with the drug and
966.4 -> so if you just knew the ldl was bad you would do
that you would be willing to do that so i suspect
971.2 -> it was kind of a marketing scheme on their part
to try to convince people to take statin drugs
976.64 -> and um i think the entire seven countries study
which is the foundation of our whole cholesterol
983.2 -> mania and our fear of saturated fat and our low
fat diet all comes from the seven countries study
988.48 -> was really designed as a revenge study here's
what happened in 1955 ensel keys who had decided
995.28 -> and we can talk about why he decided this and it's
a very interesting story but he had decided that
1001.28 -> the real cause of the heart disease epidemic
that everybody believed we were experiencing
1007.52 -> was saturated fat intake and cholesterol in the
blood he believed that blood cholesterol was the
1014.24 -> ultimate indicator of risk for heart disease and
he believed that the ultimate demon in the diet
1019.68 -> was saturated that because he believed it
consistently raised cholesterol therefore
1024.72 -> if cholesterol causes heart disease saturated
fat is the determinant of the thing that causes
1032.88 -> and he was convinced of this and there's some a
notion in psychology called motivated cognition
1038.72 -> it means you look but you have an agenda and you
hope the facts are going to come out a certain way
1044.8 -> you're kind of motivated to see something
or not see something because you have a
1048.96 -> it's also called confirmation bias
so he in 1955 he goes before the
1055.76 -> world health organization he presents his
chart of six countries and he says look at
1060.32 -> this chart the more fat they eat the more
heart disease they have they laughed at him
1067.84 -> they criticized him they laughed at him they said
what's your best piece of evidence for this crazy
1072.08 -> theory i didn't say crazy theory but that was the
the tone and and this is according to witnesses by
1077.76 -> the way henry blackburn who was a colleague of
keys has written about this this and they said
1083.36 -> what's your best piece of evidence ansel and he
says well there's this and they demolished it
1089.68 -> he never got over that so he said i'll show these
guys i'm going to design a study that is going to
1096.64 -> be incontrovertible and is going to prove my point
so he did the seven country study he purposely
1102.4 -> chose seven countries that would meet his criteria
and show that relationship now what's important to
1108.96 -> understand as it has been shown subsequently
is there was actually data for 22 countries
1116.16 -> and he just left out the ones that didn't conform
to his hypothesis so there were other problems
1120.88 -> with the seven countries study i mean they only
sampled the diets of fewer than 500 men which was
1127.28 -> um just a few percentage of the total population
which was not statistically significant
1132.48 -> they had huge problems measuring what people ate
trying to get people to tell you what they eat
1138 -> is almost impossible to do it accurately and one
of the little details that i found which was just
1144.56 -> sort of emblematic of the problems that they had
was that in one of the three weeks that keys went
1149.76 -> to crete the island of crete where the seemed to
be the most long-lived people who ate the least
1155.68 -> amount of saturated fat they were like his star
subjects in one of the three weeks that he went
1161.28 -> to look at that population he arrived during lent
the strict greek orthodox lent where you can't eat
1167.68 -> any kind of animal foods so he really it's obvious
that he undercounted the amount of saturated fat
1173.36 -> that these people were eating don't be making
any conclusions from this because all we're doing
1178.8 -> is showing associations so i'd be very careful
about making too many conclusions we have done
1183.76 -> the opposite we look at these association studies
and we assume cause and effect so it would be like
1191.44 -> looking at a fire and saying fire causes firemen
or firemen cause fires or umbrellas cause rain
1198.88 -> lots of things are found together there are
there's a site called 538 it's nate silver and his
1205.36 -> team of incredible statisticians and they actually
put together a list of statistically significant
1212.16 -> uh correlations or associations and they're
hysterically funny you know like the number
1216.4 -> of ice cubes you use in a drink is
correlated with the color of your eyes
1219.84 -> there's all kinds of statistical associations that
are even statistically significant but meaningless
1226.4 -> so you can't really draw these kind of causal
uh conclusions from seeing the two things
1232.48 -> associated with each other and that's pretty
much what they did well my opinion on ansel keys
1240.8 -> and the whole anti-saturated fat movement and the
anti-cholesterol movement is that it is built on
1248.4 -> faulty data it is built on information where ansel
keyes cherry-picked information that he thought
1256.72 -> fit the model that he wanted to create now
who funded him and what was behind him and
1262.24 -> was it big agriculture you know was it you know
these big food conglomerates that they said hey
1269.68 -> fat is bad therefore you got to eat our sugary
cereal in a box you know that's maybe subject
1275.68 -> for another another time to talk about conspiracy
theory with that but i will say this is that when
1280.72 -> you look at the literature there for for every
person that was with ansel keys in his data
1287.6 -> there was probably 20 doctors that were against
ansel keys so doctors like john yudkin and others
1294.88 -> published a lot of information but clearly when it
went to the hands of the united states government
1300.8 -> i believe that the united states government
clearly was on the side of some of these big
1305.76 -> box food makers to say hey we can do some other
things here that don't require refrigeration and
1312 -> have very long shelf lifes and now you get into
the cereal and the grains and all the different
1316.88 -> you know farming practices that are going on now
that that clearly propagated that agenda i mean
1323.2 -> one of the things to know about ancel keys is that
ansel keyes was a very domineering personality you
1330.32 -> know even his friends would say he will argue
anyone to the death and he is um you know he's
1337.76 -> an aggressive individual and it was really that
force of personality that was able to get his idea
1344.32 -> into the american heart association and and made
it the founding idea for all of nutrition science
1350.56 -> really through the 20th and still the 21st
century and there's so many problems with the
1355.36 -> seven countries study you could drive a mack
truck through the hole in that study i mean
1361.2 -> things that didn't add up as far as his theory
went for example two population groups in turkey
1366.4 -> with very very different levels of heart disease
they eat the same amount of fat he just ignored
1370.88 -> it two islands in greece where heart disease rates
were wildly different but fat intake was the same
1376.96 -> just ignored it he actually did some of his
measurements during it was a greek orthodox
1384.16 -> country and he did it during fasting times i mean
it was it was just a horrible study and it was an
1388.8 -> epidemiological study health authorities and
governments around the world really understood
1393.68 -> that the seven country study was not enough it was
weak evidence and everybody knew it and so what
1399.12 -> happened in the 60s and 70s was that governments
around the world undertook a more rigorous kind
1404.32 -> of science called randomized controlled clinical
trials which can show cause and effect they tested
1410.56 -> more than 60 000 people on this idea that
saturated fat and cholesterol cause heart disease
1417.36 -> it's the most tested hypothesis in the history
of nutrition science and all of those studies
1423.44 -> taken together concluded that saturated fat had
no effect on cardiovascular mortality or total
1430.16 -> mortality in fact in around 1957 the american
heart association put out a 16 page position paper
1439.68 -> in which they said there's no evidence that
requires us to suggest to the american people
1445.68 -> that they change their diet this low-fat stuff
is not proven there's some tentative associations
1451.84 -> we do not endorse this it's not our position four
years later talk about dominating personalities
1458.32 -> four years later there was an ad hoc committee of
the american heart association which ansel keyes
1465.44 -> was on a with a couple of his cronies and they
came out with a position paper which was all of
1470.56 -> two pages long saying the best scientific evidence
which they did not reference definitely supports
1476.24 -> the idea that low-fat is a better choice how did
he do that i don't know i mean i all i can think
1482.72 -> of is that there are extremely dominating
personalities who manage to influence the
1487.52 -> organizations that they're in and we have this
sense now that everybody agreed but they didn't
1499.76 -> george mann was a biochemist at the university
of vanderbilt and he was interested in what
1505.28 -> caused heart disease and he went to kenya and
studied a tribe called the messiah they were
1513.6 -> in incredibly good health he measured them he
took 400 electrocardiograms and he couldn't find
1519.36 -> a trace of heart disease and they had very low
blood pressure and importantly they as they get
1525.12 -> older it didn't get worse their blood pressure
didn't rise with age their cholesterol levels
1529.36 -> were very low and remain so as they got older and
he wanted to understand why they were so healthy
1536 -> it was so different than what was seen at that
time in western populations this was in the 1970s
1542.72 -> well what did the messiah eat they ate a diet of
meat blood and fat that's it uh and milk um their
1551.04 -> diet was probably 60 70 fat and much of that
was saturated fat and very high in cholesterol
1556.96 -> so this was contrary evidence to what ansel keyes
was um proposing i mean according to ansel keys
1563.84 -> and all his colleagues that these messiah warriors
should have been dead uh from heart attacks
1568.88 -> you know they should not have been in perfect
health george mann he published this work in
1575.92 -> reputable journals he looked into the possibility
that maybe these messiah warriors had some kind
1580.48 -> of special genetic protection so he followed
some of them to when they moved to the big
1584.48 -> city and he discovered that in the cities when
they changed their diet to become more western
1588.72 -> that they didn't see their cholesterol rise
and their blood pressure get worse so he
1592.16 -> understood that it was not something some unique
genetic protection george mann discovered that
1598.32 -> in promoting his evidence he was going up against
the dominant hypothesis right so now ansel case's
1606.08 -> hypothesis has been adopted by the american heart
association the national institutes of health
1611.76 -> everybody has adopted the diet heart hypothesis
and george mann found himself a very lonely man
1617.44 -> george mann with a name worth remembering he was
one of the top researchers on the framingham study
1623.76 -> which is the cornerstone of all of our thoughts
about heart disease and diet called the notion
1629.84 -> that cholesterol causes heart disease the greatest
scam ever perpetrated on the american public i
1635.52 -> mean one of the questions that i always get asked
is who are the critics where were the critics
1639.76 -> how is it possible it's not possible that one man
ancel keys would be would drive a whole hypothesis
1645.12 -> and of course that's a fair question because there
were in fact many critics of ansel keys there was
1652.8 -> for instance john yudkin who was a professor of
nutrition in london and he was his proposal that
1660.16 -> sugar was really driving heart disease but ansel
keyes really shot down that hypothesis and he did
1667.2 -> it in a way that really can almost be described as
bullying he would publish articles calling yudkin
1674 -> names like saying accusing him of being backed
by commercial interests and telling him that he
1681.44 -> didn't know his you know didn't know anything
about the data and sort of and just denigrating
1685.6 -> him in the scientific literature and this was you
know to anybody in science it's such an affront
1691.68 -> to be attacked in this way and it really had an
effect on john yedkin he was really drummed out of
1696.64 -> the field ultimately and gave up and this you
know john yudkin is not the only example there is
1703.04 -> uh there are multiple examples of critics
of keys another one is theodore reiser a
1708.08 -> tremendously well professor at texas a
m university who wrote a critique of the
1714.32 -> idea that saturated fats caused heart attacks he
wrote a reason i think very good rigorous critique
1721.12 -> of ansel keys hypothesis ansel keys responded with
a like a 20-plus page attack on theodore riser
1730.72 -> including calling him names including calling him
you know accusing him of being backed again by
1736.24 -> some kind of financial interest and um i
mean the sorts of cr you know the sorts of
1744.08 -> critiques that you really would expect on a
playground almost you know they're so just really
1750.56 -> rude name-calling kind of behavior and you know
you can be sure that theodore riser never wrote
1756.64 -> again anything against ansel keys because that's
not normal in the scientific community to do that
1761.92 -> i usually when i tell audiences about this i use
unfortunately nobody is old enough to remember
1767.68 -> this because we all grew up with dvd players and
things like that but in the 80s there were vhs
1773.04 -> players and there were two kinds of vhs players if
you will there was the vhs we all know and loved
1780.24 -> that our parents used that had 12 o'clock flashing
and there was a competing system called betamax
1786.24 -> by sony and the two lobbied they all tried
to get the most movie studios to work with
1794 -> them and to release movies on their format and
they tried to get the most manufacturers to make
1798.4 -> uh you know the the kind of players that
would play their stuff either betamax or vhs
1803.92 -> and vhs ultimately won the battle of public
relations and became the the official format in
1811.12 -> the 80s until we we went to streaming and all
the rest of it here's the thing if you go to
1815.76 -> any recording studio in the world and ask them
what the best technology is they will tell you
1820.32 -> betamax was by far it was the better technology
but they didn't have a good ground game so they
1827.2 -> lost that's what happened with ansel keyes and
john yetkin john the wrong theory won john yudkin
1834.48 -> had the answer right then he had the fertile
place we should have been looking for research
1840.64 -> and so he's had a better ground game and we've
been living with the results for 40 years there's
1846.24 -> one other another example of a critic of ansel
keyes was pete ahrens one of the leading so-called
1852 -> lipidologists which is somebody who studies fats
from the rockefeller university in new york city
1858.24 -> he was a persistent critic of ansel keys and also
this idea that we should all adopt as policy ancel
1865.28 -> keys idea to make it policy for everyone he kept
saying that evidence isn't there we don't have
1871.2 -> enough evidence the evidence is conflicting i
interviewed the students of pete ahrens who told
1877.44 -> me how that affected aaron's career i mean he
stopped getting invited to expert conferences
1882.88 -> he couldn't get his papers published he lost his
research grants and he it really caused his career
1889.12 -> to suffer the outcome of attacking scientists with
contrarian views is that scientists learned to
1895.36 -> self-censor you know when i interviewed scientists
many of them had learned they see the example of
1902.8 -> people whose careers suffer who speak out and and
suffer for it and they themselves they wouldn't
1907.76 -> talk to me or they would say i can't talk about
that or they would tell me and they would say
1911.92 -> this is what i think but i will never say that
on the public record because they know that that
1917.28 -> would end their career as cholesterol levels
became more routinely done because they weren't
1924.32 -> originally it became clear within a year that
people coming into a hospital with a heart attack
1930.88 -> had significantly lower cholesterol levels then
aged match sex match people without heart attacks
1938.4 -> there was a big difference not a little difference
so people with very high cholesterol say in our
1943.36 -> units 300 or so had far fewer heart attacks they
live longer and they're healthier so the theory
1950.08 -> was a mess from those early years and then in an
effort to save the theory a few things were done
1958.72 -> they combined the cholesterol with animal fats
saying that well it's not just cholesterol it's
1965.36 -> all these bad saturated animal fats and that
includes some of the best foods in the world
1970.96 -> like you could argue an egg is almost a perfect
food so the vilification of eggs and butter
1977.68 -> and then the promotion of you know seed oil-based
margarines you know it's all bad in terms of
1986.24 -> public health and it was wrong of course but the
theory still was falling flat and that's when you
1992.88 -> saw the introduction of good and bad cholesterol
the hgl ldl again one is not morally bad and one's
2002.32 -> not morally good their different densities have
different roles that didn't hold water either but
2010.96 -> and then most of the cholesterol trials no
actually you could say all all of the dietary
2017.44 -> interventions were a disaster none of them
had any benefit if you make people eat a lot
2023.52 -> of polyunsaturated vegetable oils in place
of healthy butter and natural fats they get
2031.44 -> they're worse they get sicker the whole notion of
cholesterol clogging your arteries and you know
2036.72 -> if you eat bacon grease it goes right into the
arteries and takes up residence there is it's just
2042.48 -> nonsensical it's not how the body works at all
it doesn't get transposed from the mcdonald's
2048.72 -> plate into your arteries but that image has
been so embedded in our consciousness it's
2055.44 -> almost like a meme that it's very hard to erase
that notion that if you eat that you become fat
2062 -> and that all this saturated fat that's what it
looks like in your arteries and in fact that's
2066.72 -> not true well we have long believed and we've
developed dietary policies that reflect the fact
2074.24 -> that fat and saturated fat and cholesterol cause
heart disease and yet it's based on very flimsy
2081.92 -> evidence in fact increasingly evidence is showing
that dietary fat is not linked to heart disease
2088.4 -> in any way that cholesterol is not linked dietary
cholesterol is not linked to heart disease in fact
2094.4 -> the us dietary guidelines in 2015 clearly removed
dietary cholesterol as a quote nutrient of concern
2102.16 -> meaning there's no longer any reason to restrict
it because it has nothing to do with heart disease
2106.64 -> and their answer was well we never really looked
at the data very carefully we just assumed
2111.2 -> because cholesterol is bad the dietary cholesterol
is bad you should cut out eggs and shrimp and you
2115.36 -> know forget about it the truth is that that was
never studied same thing with saturated fat there
2120.56 -> was some evidence based on population studies
looking at large populations over time looking for
2125.92 -> patterns or correlations that saturated fats seem
to be linked to heart disease through the work of
2131.6 -> ancel keys in the seven countries study but that
was just looking at patterns it didn't prove cause
2136.24 -> and effect and so when data actually came out
that started to look at cause and effect studies
2143.12 -> in fact it was done by ansel keys himself and
his colleague they found that the group of 9 000
2150.24 -> people that were divided into two groups they were
in mental institutions and you couldn't do that
2154.48 -> study today the group that had vegetable oil corn
oil did far worse in the group that had saturated
2161.6 -> fat or butter in this large randomized control
trial which was done in the 1960s and the data
2166.64 -> was never published because the authors didn't
really like conclusions and it stayed buried
2171.92 -> for 40 years in a basement until researchers
from the nih national institutes of health
2179.04 -> uncovered the data analyzed it and found that fact
those people who had the saturated fat did better
2184.32 -> in fact if you took the vegetable oil you lowered
your cholesterol your ldl cholesterol using these
2190.08 -> polyunsaturated fatty acids and when you lowered
your ldl cholesterol your risk of heart disease
2195.6 -> went up by 22 percent for every 30 point drop
in ldl completely contradicting all of our other
2201.92 -> thinking about this and then there's been 17 large
meta-analyses of all the data observational data
2206.64 -> randomized trials blood levels of fatty acids all
showing that there is no link between saturated
2212.48 -> fat total fat and heart disease in fact there's
an inverse relationship with monounsaturated
2218.8 -> fats and omega-3 fats and of course a positive
correlation with trans fat or hydrogenated fats
2234.32 -> in 2010 there was a meta-analysis which was
published in the journal of clinical nutrition the
2241.68 -> lead researcher was siri torino and ron krauss the
great lipid biochemist from children's hospital
2247.68 -> in oakland uh was one of the researchers on this
and they did a meta-analysis of all these studies
2253.52 -> that looked at saturated fat except they did not
look at the surrogate cholesterol they said let's
2259.28 -> bypass the surrogate let's see what we really care
about because why do we care about cholesterol in
2263.52 -> the first place because we're afraid it's going
to tell us something about how long we're going
2268.24 -> to live and that's why we are worried about
it so they said let's not look at the let's
2272.96 -> look at the thing we're really worried about do
people die more when they eat more saturated fat
2277.36 -> and the results of 350 000 people who were looked
at in these studies in this meta-analysis was
2283.12 -> no it does not cause any increase in death
whatsoever it may involve a little bit of
2289.52 -> an increase in total cholesterol but who cares if
the endpoint you care about which is mortality is
2295.04 -> not influenced by saturated fat intake it's that
simple saturated fat has been the biggest thing
2301.84 -> for many many years the heart association came out
with a statement and i believe it was june of 2017
2309.2 -> stating that we should really stay away from
saturated fat and they've been saying this for
2312.96 -> 50 years i think they decreased the potential
from 10 to 7 percent uh and a lot of us and
2320.24 -> integrative medicine really don't believe that
first of all it is based on studies three studies
2325.52 -> from the 60s and the studies are thought to be
flawed and there are many studies since then
2331.44 -> that show that saturated fat is not nearly as
bad or the culprit that we once thought it was
2338.08 -> the myth that's been out there since the 60s
is that saturated fats cause coronary heart
2345.92 -> disease and myocardial infarction heart attacks
turns out that's probably not the whole story
2353.36 -> saturated fats just like a lot of things
is not one entity it's different entities
2359.84 -> and the difference in most saturated fats relates
to a what's called a chemical carbon length
2366.56 -> so it's like how long how long is your rope now
do you have a short rope we would call that a
2374.16 -> carbon four length versus a long rope which would
be like a carbon 18 length so it's how many carbon
2381.28 -> molecules are lined up so a saturated fat is
not just a saturated fat depends on the length
2388.56 -> of the rope how many carbons and the newest
data shows that if your carbon length is a c10
2397.76 -> or less as a saturated fat does not cause
chronic heart disease does not cause heart attack
2406 -> if your carbon length is c12 to c18 those
saturated fats can cause coronary heart disease
2415.04 -> so when you say don't eat saturated fats
the first question i would say to you is
2419.76 -> well let's get rid of the ones that c12 are higher
but keep the ones that are c10 or less and we
2424.48 -> can do that with dietary restriction the longer
chain saturated fats would be in what i would say
2434 -> bad meat so you're getting like
a beef that's been corn fed
2442.24 -> that is not organic and it's not the meat
that's a problem it's the fats that are
2449.76 -> in the meat that are the problem so if you've got
corn fed beef versus grass-fed beef that's organic
2458 -> different type of saturated fats in the beef as
well as different types of other fats in the beef
2465.04 -> so they're totally different literally animals
with what you're eating butter is a mixed story
2470.88 -> too depending on where the butter comes from you
know what what's the cow eating to make the butter
2477.68 -> so if you have a cow that's you know consuming a
lot of omega-3s and grass the butter is totally
2484 -> different than if it's being fed corn so once
again you can't say that all butter is bad either
2490.08 -> some butter is fine saturated fat brings a lot to
the table some of the longer chain fats however
2500.24 -> it's been incriminated that these longer very long
chain fatty acids uh you know can be inflammatory
2506.48 -> i look at it this way i like eating fat and you
know will i eat coconut yes i will despite the
2513.52 -> fact that maybe some of my colleagues you know
feel you know will throw coconut under the bus
2518.72 -> i looked at it this way fats do not elicit
an insulin response in other words they don't
2524.96 -> elicit the insulin response that sugar does and
to me being in this business for for decades
2532 -> it's sugar that's the enemy for coronary artery
disease so if you want to eat more fat you know
2538.72 -> whether it's monounsaturated omega-3 saturated
fats that's okay with me if you want to have eggs
2545.2 -> that's okay with me as long as they're
organic eggs but but i'll tell you uh
2549.68 -> i just feel that you know we've thrown
fat under the bus and uh and to me uh
2554.88 -> if you ate more healthier fat you know and
again i'm a big proponent of olive oil to me
2560.8 -> olive oil is the secret sauce on the mediterranean
diet i mean even in the pre-demand study you know
2566.08 -> they showed that if you had four tablespoons
of olive oil a day that's a lot of olive oil
2570.48 -> i mean that's that's a lot i mean that's like
you know 500 calories or so i mean that's that's
2575.92 -> pretty hefty stuff but these participants who
took four tablespoons of olive oil a day and less
2581.84 -> heart disease less heart attack less death less
alzheimer's disease less memory disorders less
2587.28 -> diabetes so there's something about olive oil in
a diet and if you look at the mediterranean basin
2594.16 -> and if you compare the mediterranean basin to
okinawa okinawa has the longest well i would
2600.64 -> say the the longest living peoples in the world i
think it's 85.7 years and the mediterraneans are
2608.24 -> only a couple of months behind the okinawans uh
and i believe that you know okay the okinawans get
2614.56 -> a lot of seaweeds that's really good a little
of artichoke you know a lot of avocado that's
2620.72 -> really good artichokes are really good but the
mediterraneans you know they're eating olive oil
2626.64 -> and i feel that olive oil you know you talk about
cholesterol i mean olive oil lowers ldl raises hdl
2633.84 -> lowers triglycerides have a beneficial effect on
blood sugar i mean olive oil does everything right
2640 -> to the blood chemistries and the biggest thing
about olive oil that was like music to my ears
2648.08 -> because i'm gonna you know my last name is sinatra
and i love olive oil but when i read a study where
2653.92 -> olive oil took pro-inflammatory genes that we
all have and changed pro-inflammatory genes back
2661.68 -> to their non-inflammatory state that to me was a
secret source of the mediterranean diet and that
2668.16 -> is the reason why i believe mediterraneans you
know live a long time in the world and if you look
2674.8 -> at a culture there are more sentimentarians in
the mediterranean basin than the entire world and
2681.12 -> the mediterranean basin shares olive oil whether
you're in libya or spain or the island of crete
2687.04 -> or you know tunisia or greece or italy there's
something common about that basin and i believe
2694.64 -> it's the anti-inflammatory aspect aspects of
olive oil we just heard from cardiologist dr
2706.32 -> sinatra explain the importance of fats such as
olive oil and previously dr houston explained
2713.28 -> that saturated fat from grass-fed dairy such
as butter and meat is not bad for heart disease
2721.12 -> the topic of saturated fat is such an important
one that i decided to call nutritionist and
2726.72 -> doctor stephen masley and i asked him
if he thinks saturated fat is bad or not
2735.2 -> most of the recent information and research and
public studies have shown it's pretty neutral
2740.56 -> that in moderate doses not excess but
in a modest amount of intake on a daily
2746.08 -> basis probably doesn't have much impact on heart
disease so i'm not asking someone to go eating you
2752.24 -> know steak three times a day and eggs and cheese
and butter and i think that's probably excessive
2757.6 -> but the idea that we have to really focus on
avoiding i think is a mistake the number one cause
2763.44 -> for heart disease is sugar and that includes flour
since it has almost the same glycemic load so
2771.2 -> i wish we emphasized less unsaturated fat and
more on avoiding sugar and flour if we really
2778.4 -> want to help prevent heart disease okay so do some
people respond differently to eating saturated fat
2786.32 -> that probably is the case that there
are you know people who are about
2789.92 -> you know genetically and biologically unique and
have special responses and you know some people
2796.08 -> have a they can eat everything properly
and their cholesterol is off the chart
2800.88 -> so but that's five percent of the population so
for that five percent probably maybe the saturated
2808.16 -> fat is moderately important for them um for the
other 95 percent i think it's probably fairly
2815.28 -> neutral i see and are there any side effects
of a low-fat diet you may know this but i used
2823.04 -> to be the medical director for the pritikin
longevity center back in the 90s and that was
2827.84 -> an ultra low low fat diet and it did drop people's
hormone levels like testosterone levels would drop
2835.12 -> um i thought some of their cholesterol profile
findings got worse they were more prone to their
2840.56 -> blood sugar levels going up impacting insulin
and other hormones that regulate blood sugar so
2846.56 -> i'm really no i'm not a fan of low fat diets
can you tell me about the findings of the
2854.24 -> sydney heart study so in the sydney heart
study this is a question we've been asking
2859.68 -> a long time look at looking at vegetable oils is
specifically um linoleic acid and um you know if
2869.44 -> we give this specific essential fatty acid to
people in a big dose compared to saturated fat
2876.32 -> what would be the outcome of that and they
did in sydney um they did a study and they
2881.12 -> randomized and compared it and when they cut
the saturated fat in favor of linoleic acid
2886.96 -> like that's what we get from corn oil and
safflower oil the risk for heart attack went up
2898.8 -> the consensus around fat is that there are good
fats and they're bad fats and there are ones in
2903.04 -> the middle that are in debate so the good fats
are are well agreed upon monounsaturated fat
2908.56 -> olive oil nuts and seeds and omega-3 fats
there's no argument there in fact the large
2913.92 -> mediterranean study was done called the predimed
study looking at giving people either olive oil
2919.04 -> or nuts and comparing that to a group that had a
low fat diet this large randomized nutrition study
2926.56 -> very hard to do 7000 people and they found
that those who had the olive oil or the nuts
2932.24 -> did far better in terms of reducing risk
for heart disease than those who had the
2938.32 -> low-fat diet in fact they had to stop the study
after 4.8 years because the people on the low-fat
2944 -> diet were dying and it was unethical to continue
the study so those are things like olive oil
2949.84 -> nuts and so forth you know when you ask about
heart-healthy foods this is what i lecture on
2954.8 -> actually in my courses how we have been
so misled ultimately by sponsorship
2962.56 -> resulting in guidelines on our health the american
heart association takes in almost a billion
2970.16 -> dollars a year in revenue a good percentage of
that from pharma and from the food companies
2978.16 -> so they pay for that heart healthy logo and it
really goes back ultimately think about this to
2984.56 -> vegetable oil so corn oil was one of the original
heart-healthy foods never associated with better
2991.84 -> health clearly associated with poorer
health greater heart attacks and those
2995.84 -> who took the corn oil and this is simply a way
for sponsorship to the american heart association
3002.48 -> how to ultimately sell more products this is
basically the idea that you consume anything
3008.56 -> that's from a vegetable and it'll be healthy
so grains vegetables therefore must be healthy
3015.6 -> corn oil must be healthy because it doesn't have
saturated fat all of these these products which
3022 -> are given the seal of being heart healthy they've
consistently been shown to at best be neutral
3028.4 -> and at worst to be very unhealthy you know it's
funny kristen lawless just wrote a book called
3033.68 -> formerly known as food where she talks about those
little heart healthy symbols and the this is the
3038.96 -> cereal of the olympics and all that stuff those
are bought you have to pay quite a lot of money
3044.24 -> for that i think she has the figures in there for
the american heart association i think it's three
3048.64 -> thousand dollars in endorsement and they have
hundreds and hundreds of companies like that
3054.16 -> and it's literally a source of millions of
dollars for the american heart association those
3058.16 -> those labels are the silliest things in the world
and they they give them heart-healthy labels
3062.96 -> if they meet the criteria that are outdated
like is it low in cholesterol who cares
3068.64 -> that has nothing to do with anything even
ansel keys knew that is it low in saturated
3072.88 -> fat well when they're just judging on that
then they can give a a heart healthy label
3078.32 -> to a sugar-coated cereal because it doesn't have
any saturated fat and doesn't have any cholesterol
3084.24 -> and that's what they do you know we're often
told that you must eat grains for their fiber
3088.4 -> and b vitamins this is complete fiction when you
consume grains numerous nutritional deficiencies
3096.32 -> appear and we see that even with traditional or
heirloom forms like the iron corn wheat because
3101.6 -> there's evidence for iron deficiency anemia
and other forms of deficiency so when humans
3107.12 -> added the seeds of grasses and we did so by the
way in desperation during times of starvation
3112.64 -> it did keep us alive for a few more weeks but
then we paid the price later it could be called
3119.28 -> rheumatoid arthritis or knee arthritis or eczema
or cataracts or the modern age type 2 diabetes