Has meat gotten a bad reputation, or should be reaching for more plants over beef.
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0.06 -> we've been talking about how much meat
1.829 -> we should include in our diet we're back
3.929 -> with dr. David Katz dr. Joel Cohn and
5.97 -> doctor Gabriele Lyon
7.44 -> so let's bridge the gap here a little
9.57 -> bit because I do think that there is a
11.88 -> truth out there and I think we would all
15.66 -> agree overly processed foods to begin
18.539 -> with bad right well we all agree that
20.46 -> overly processed foods yes now just so
24.539 -> you know and I think this is important I
26.51 -> eat meat I enjoy red meat I come from a
30.9 -> family of farmers in Nebraska hooray you
32.7 -> know that was what I grew up with I'm
34.559 -> more passionate about this because of
36.03 -> where I grew up in the Midwest and and
37.92 -> now living in the south and the race of
39.93 -> obesity if you look at the headlines I
42.829 -> think that we need to be teaching people
45.36 -> we need to focus on more plant-based and
47.969 -> and yes
48.75 -> talk to your doctor make sure you're
49.77 -> getting enough protein particularly you
51.21 -> have sarcopenia muscle ways that can
52.829 -> start in your 30s so you it's all about
55.559 -> optimal body composition so if we begin
57.75 -> to further reduce red meat and I just I
60.539 -> personally and in my clinic I haven't
62.609 -> seen it to negatively impact people I've
65.88 -> only seen it to be a positive and yet I
68.31 -> look at you dr. Khanna you haven't had
70.229 -> meat in 42 years you look healthy dead
72.75 -> lion you eat meat and you have two
76.53 -> months ago okay so you know it worked
80.009 -> and yeah and that's my point is I there
82.229 -> is a happy medium here and so for the
85.049 -> general population and doctor guess I
87.119 -> want to go back to you because we can
88.74 -> talk about this for hours upon hours but
91.259 -> where I really respect you dr. Katz is
93.329 -> you've spent your career trying to dive
95.85 -> into the actual science
97.979 -> you started the true health initiative
99.81 -> on the big fan of it it's about getting
102.78 -> out to the masses what we know to be
106.17 -> true and the truth is usually somewhere
109.14 -> in the middle because most people
110.46 -> realistically aren't going to give up
111.509 -> meat or the do they necessarily have and
117.299 -> I think even Joel would agree there that
119.88 -> a truly vegan diet especially for a long
122.43 -> as long as you've done it not everybody
125.49 -> can do that so important point there
128.58 -> were never dietary guidelines that said
130.47 -> eat all the snack Wells you want and all
132 -> will be well
133.41 -> all sensible dietary guidelines in our
135.42 -> country have been co-opted by big food
137.67 -> and turned into nonsense and you can do
139.53 -> that with meat where advise to eat lean
142.2 -> healthy whole meat turns into have all
145.29 -> the pepperoni pizza you want and advice
147.51 -> about eating more plants turns into as
150.54 -> long as it's low-fat it doesn't matter
152.37 -> if it's snack closed all of that's
153.42 -> nonsense that's pop culture nonsense
155.46 -> those aren't dietary guidelines so the
157.11 -> reality is the world's best diets from a
159.96 -> vast array of evidence and and this is
161.97 -> what the true Health Initiative experts
163.68 -> from all around the world rally around
165.44 -> there's a theme there and the basic
167.85 -> theme Michael Pollan said it nicely eat
170.04 -> food not too much mostly plants you know
172.86 -> in Joel's case and and largely in mine
175.17 -> it's all plants it doesn't have to be
177.18 -> you can be pescetarian flexitarian
179.46 -> mediterranean there all sorts of
180.84 -> variants on the theme even paleo all of
183.12 -> these things come together and argue for
184.98 -> less meat I agree everyone should eat
187.08 -> more plants I totally agree with that
188.52 -> but what happens when you tell the
190.86 -> average American to eat you know more
193.35 -> plants it's gonna be potatoes it's not
195.18 -> spinach and broccoli and leafy greens so
197.58 -> now we further reduce a healthy food
199.38 -> source and we end up replacing it with
201.11 -> excess you know processed carbohydrates
203.55 -> and and fat unfortunately we do have to
206.4 -> in the conversation but beauty of all
207.69 -> this is we're doctors talking about the
210.66 -> importance of nutrition we've always
212.25 -> said this food is medicine you have to
214.71 -> figure out what works for you but maybe
217.08 -> the other lesson in this conversation is
218.67 -> be very careful when you read a headline
221.31 -> and also talk to people who are
224.28 -> knowledge when please have a
225.209 -> conversation with your doctor if you're
226.47 -> dealing with specific issues to you talk
229.35 -> to your doctor about what may be the
230.7 -> optimum diet for you but unequivocally
233.19 -> and this is where I will close this out
234.99 -> I agree with you dr. Katz your comment
238.22 -> Michael Pollan said it right say it one
240.93 -> last time eat food not too much mostly
244.2 -> plants and I think that's pretty good
247.56 -> advice for the megwin if you're not
249.75 -> doing that you should try it and listen
251.88 -> to your body and you may be surprised
253.95 -> how much better you feel and do it in
256.739 -> concert with your physician I respect
258.81 -> all three of you thank you so much for
260.64 -> being here today share your pleasure
262.33 -> dr. Patz dr. Cohn Thanks the other thing
266.56 -> I will add is if you're gonna make a
267.639 -> drastic change your diet please you do
271.36 -> need to make sure you're getting all the
272.919 -> required nutrients particularly we talk