❤️ Reversing heart disease | Plant based Dr. Caldwell Esselstyn
❤️ Reversing heart disease | Plant based Dr. Caldwell Esselstyn
Jenna Matecki interviews Dr. Caldwell Esselstyn, a legendary down-to-earth doctor who has reversed and cured heart disease for thousands of patients, and advocated for a plant-based diet since 1984.
You may recognize him from the documentary Forks Over Knives, praise from President Clinton, books or videos from his wife Ann, daughter Jane, or son Rip, the Cleveland Clinic, or piles and piles of well-cited nutrition papers, studies, and essays.
Heart disease is the leading cause of death for Americans and, as someone who was born in the US heartland, I could not recommend hearing what Dr. Esselstyn has to say more.
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FOLLOW DR. ESSELSTYN \u0026 FAMILY
Ann Crile \u0026 Jane Esselstyn YouTube Channel
• JANE AND ANN
Follow Dr. Esselstyn
https://www.instagram.com/dresselstyn/
https://twitter.com/DrEsselstyn
https://www.facebook.com/Dr.Esselstyn
Follow Ann Crile Esselstyn
• JANE AND ANN
Follow Jane Esselstyn, Rn
https://www.instagram.com/jane_essels…
Follow Rip Esselstyn
https://www.instagram.com/ripesselstyn/
https://www.facebook.com/RipEsselstyn/
Follow Engine 2 Diet
https://www.instagram.com/engine2diet/
READ
Dr. Esselstyn’s Prevent and Reverse Heart Disease Program
http://www.dresselstyn.com/site/
Prevent and Reverse Heart Disease Book by Dr. Esselstyn
https://amzn.to/2ztkVHb
Prevent and Reverse Heart Disease Cookbook by Ann Crile Esselstyn, Jane Esselstyn
https://amzn.to/3fJLuZn
The Engine 2 Cookbook by Rip Esselstyn \u0026 Jane Esselstyn
https://amzn.to/3cqHTgQ
WATCH
The Game Changers
https://gamechangersmovie.com/
Forks Over Knives
https://www.forksoverknives.com/
Ann Crile \u0026 Jane Esselstyn YouTube Channel
• JANE AND ANN
TAKE A LOOK AT THE RESEARCH
Specifically cited in this video:
‘Is Oil Healthy?’ Caldwell B. Esselstyn, Jr. International Journal of Disease Reversal and Prevention
A review of multiple animal and human studies reflecting the deleterious effects of ingesting processed oil. Vol 1 No 1 (2019)
https://ijdrp.org/index.php/ijdrp/art…
‘Dr. Arnold Relman, 91, Journal Editor and Health System Critic, Dies,’ New York Times Obituary, June 21, 2014 https://www.nytimes.com/2014/06/22/us…
WHO Q\u0026A on the carcinogenicity of the consumption of red meat and processed meat
https://www.who.int/news-room/q-a-det…
Dr. Esselstyn’s Selected Articles, Studies, and Reflections
http://www.dresselstyn.com/site/artic…
‘The China Study’ T. Colin Campbell, Thomas M Campbell II
https://amzn.to/2zCixha
How Not to Die: Discover the Foods Scientifically Proven to Prevent and Reverse Disease by Michael Greger, MD, FACLM with Gene Stone
https://amzn.to/2LpscKM
‘Research on intermittent fasting shows health benefits,’ National Institute on Aging, February 27, 2020
https://www.nia.nih.gov/news/research…
Greens - NutritionFacts.org
https://nutritionfacts.org/topics/gre…
Berries - NutritionFacts.org
https://nutritionfacts.org/topics/ber…
1 in 5 adolescents and 1 in 4 young adults now living with prediabetes, Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, December 2, 2019
https://www.cdc.gov/media/releases/20…
The food and nutrient intakes of the Tarahumara Indians of Mexico, M T Cerqueira, M M Fry, W E Connor, The American Journal of Clinical Nutrition, Volume 32, Issue 4, April 1979, Pages 905–915, https://doi.org/10.1093/ajcn/32.4.905
Ornish Lifestyle Medicine
https://www.ornish.com/proven-program…
William W. Li, MD
https://drwilliamli.com/
Eat to Beat Disease: The New Science of How Your Body Can Heal Itself by William W. Li, MD
https://amzn.to/2SXjrvx
Cleveland Clinic
https://my.clevelandclinic.org/
American College of Cardiology Nutrition Committee
https://www.acc.org/latest-in-cardiol…
Massachusetts General Hospital COVID-19 Trails - Nitric Oxide
https://www.massgeneral.org/news/coro…
P.S. Researchers, fans, detail-oriented folks - did I miss anything? Please let me know and I can include it in this list for others. :)
Content
0 -> hi I'm Jenna welcome back to down to
2.19 -> earth I am so excited to share with you
4.2 -> that I had the opportunity to speak with
6.029 -> dr. Caldwell Esselstyn dr. Esselstyn
8.73 -> wrote the book and preventing and
10.53 -> reversing heart disease his work was
12.54 -> featured in the documentary Forks Over
14.07 -> knives and he has spent his entire
16.49 -> legendary career examining the link
19.08 -> between nutrition and heart disease I
21.51 -> have been such a big fan for such a long
23.789 -> time and I'm gonna leave this in show at
25.8 -> that because it's raining on me right
27.51 -> now and I think it's time that you
29.279 -> listen to him welcome back to down to
31.74 -> earth how are you doing how's Quarantine
36.93 -> treating you like everybody else
41.18 -> well I have a lot of questions for you
43.52 -> and I just before we get started I
46.05 -> wanted to thank you so much for what you
47.64 -> do I said this on the phone but you've
50.28 -> not only kind of saved someone you keep
52.41 -> those lives and but you've also
54.329 -> delivered your message about the power
55.71 -> of good nutrition in a way that has
58.32 -> always been respectful and kind and
60.17 -> we've all noticed so thank you for doing
63.42 -> what you do thank each other doctor
66.15 -> you've always said that heart disease is
67.799 -> a foodborne illness and poor nutrition
69.84 -> is the cause if we know this to be true
72.93 -> in your opinion why is it's so so hard
75.84 -> for people to eat right still why are
78.509 -> people so confused when you touch poison
82.65 -> ivy it's not gonna be but an hour or two
88.619 -> before you really are paying the price
91.28 -> but will you sit down and have a steak
93.6 -> or you have pork or you have bacon or
97.86 -> you have cheese
100.64 -> you know it's take sometimes decades
104.75 -> literally decades to build
106.68 -> cardiovascular disease so there's no
108.479 -> really immediate association there at
111.72 -> all and it really doesn't do any help
115.92 -> when the cardiologists with all and
119.07 -> again with all due respect to my
120.509 -> cardiovascular friends they really have
125.189 -> no training and nutrition in medical
129 -> school they have no training in
130.979 -> nutrition
133.16 -> that's substantive in their postgraduate
136.01 -> years so frequently when I I ended up
138.83 -> seeing patients that have had an
140.96 -> unsuccessful bypass they've had an
143 -> unsuccessful stent or they've been told
146.3 -> because they have symptoms they're gonna
147.74 -> have to have one of these procedures or
149.51 -> some of the drugs none of the jugs that
152.18 -> cardiology uses none of the stents none
154.97 -> of the bypasses have one single solitary
157.88 -> thing whatsoever to do with the
159.74 -> causation of the illness when you have
163.36 -> the profession that is treating this
165.74 -> disease sort of didn't deny the reality
170.27 -> of the science that has been out there
173.99 -> now for 30 years showing clearly that if
177.44 -> we take patients who are seriously ill
179.74 -> with cardiovascular disease and we get
182.54 -> them to change the way they're eating
186.29 -> and stop eating any foods that are going
188.36 -> to injure the endothelial cell then the
191.6 -> endothelial cells will begin to recover
193.64 -> they make enough nitric oxide so we can
196.16 -> halt disease progression and often we'll
198.8 -> see a significant elements of disease
200.75 -> reversal leveling the playing field is
203.66 -> so much better now than it was 30 years
205.94 -> ago 34 years ago when I started I mean
208.16 -> it's in all fairness there are
210.91 -> cardiologists who become become aware of
212.96 -> this there are physicians who have
215.27 -> become aware of it but it's it's very
218.21 -> awkward for physicians to try to believe
221.33 -> in something for which they were never
223.07 -> trained and and also it's hard to
226.97 -> imagine that there is something that is
228.74 -> more magical and more powerful when
231.23 -> you're speaking about Brussels sprouts
232.82 -> and broccoli then you are with somebody
235.82 -> who has invented this drug which has
238.67 -> taken many many years to develop is
241.31 -> going to cost a great deal of money to
245.48 -> take regularly it will have hideous side
247.94 -> effects and it doesn't have anything to
250.43 -> do with curing the disease but it'll
252.11 -> help the symptoms so it's a it's coming
257.03 -> you know it's really so embarrassing
258.77 -> when you think that half of the planet
260.299 -> earth doesn't have cardiovascular
262.28 -> disease if you were a cardiac surgeon
264.56 -> and you were going to take your
268.38 -> you're hanging out your shingle in
272.229 -> Okinawa rural China Central Africa the
274.84 -> papal Highlands in New Guinea
277.24 -> the Tarahumara northern Mexico forget it
280.38 -> you better plan on selling pencils why
283.63 -> they don't have any cardiovascular
284.889 -> disease why because they all strive on
287.68 -> whole food plant-based nutrition
288.85 -> essentially without oil in light of that
291.669 -> a lot of people think that genetics is
293.53 -> the cause cause and pharmacology is the
297.55 -> cure right
298.539 -> okay genetics it's a cause why is it
300.94 -> then Okinawa doesn't have any heart
302.979 -> disease but as soon as they move to the
304.57 -> west and they all develop heart disease
307.8 -> and there have been studies that have
309.91 -> shown this hmm okay so you're much more
314.86 -> you know if we're looking at nature
315.97 -> versus nurture when either you take a
317.41 -> family where ever no male has ever lived
319.99 -> beyond the age of 50 or 55 because of
322.12 -> heart disease but if you get that
325.449 -> younger male who is in his forties who
328.15 -> hasn't yet he can go
330.43 -> you can absolutely vanquish
332.49 -> cardiovascular disease yeah but we're in
336.94 -> such a habit how many times do you go to
338.74 -> a restaurant in this country and go to
341.5 -> the menu and find there's no oil what is
348.789 -> all due to your endothelial cells and
351.58 -> dangers on there I just wrote a paper
354.07 -> last year in the International Journal
356.5 -> of disease reversal and prevention the
359.65 -> title was it is oil healthy and I review
362.59 -> all the animal studies the human studies
364.479 -> showing how oil injures the endothelial
368.32 -> cells yeah doctor it's kind of hard for
370.87 -> people to hear that olive oil is
373.539 -> something that we should avoid and I'm
375.4 -> sure you get this question a lot which
376.81 -> is why you wrote a paper on it can you
378.61 -> outline your recommendations for you no
381.07 -> and I know you've done this plenty of
382.599 -> times but I'm asking to do it one more
384.099 -> time your recommendations for how we all
386.62 -> should eat first of all what what are
388.63 -> the foods that every time they pass our
391.389 -> lips we injure the endothelial cells any
396.55 -> drop of oil olive oil corn oil soybean
399.219 -> oil safflower oil
400.78 -> coconut oil palm oil boy on a cracker
404.35 -> oil and a piece of bread oil and a salad
407.26 -> dressing oil injures the endothelial
410.919 -> cell all right now just so the I'll
415.63 -> continue with that but I want to just be
417.43 -> sure that your audience will probably
419.74 -> say well what what is my credential for
424.27 -> being able to sit to say those things we
426.97 -> will compete our results in reversing
430.419 -> heart disease with anybody on the planet
432.39 -> we've written multiple papers about this
435.58 -> before we ever wrote the book and when
439.51 -> we eliminate for patients who were
441.85 -> seriously ill with heart disease the
444.76 -> foods that I've been sharing with your
446.08 -> oil and the rest that are about I'm
448 -> about to comment on not only did we stop
453.19 -> their disease but we showed that we were
454.84 -> able to reverse it okay
456.3 -> eliminate the oil also anything with a
459.01 -> mother or a face meat fish chicken fowl
462.58 -> turkey and eggs animal protein injures
466.26 -> endothelial cells as does dairy milk
470.41 -> cream butter cheese ice cream and yogurt
473.169 -> and sugary foods diet colas Pepsi coke
478.479 -> I don't like sugary foods cakes pies
481.33 -> cookies stevia agave too much maple
486.13 -> syrup or molasses we have some mo
489.49 -> labeled maple syrup in some of our
492.37 -> recipes and some of the book but for
495.16 -> patients who have heart disease I'd like
497.47 -> him to eliminate that take very little
500.2 -> amount of it also I don't like nuts
503.61 -> peanut butter cashew sauce or avocado
510.06 -> and too much saturated fat and coffee
515.89 -> with caffeine decaf okay tea with
519.219 -> caffeine okay but coffee with caffeine
521.909 -> injures endothelial cells are good for
525.52 -> people that are listening to you right
526.96 -> now eat most of those things right I
529.33 -> mean even just nuts right people make me
531.85 -> nuts like peanut butter
534.13 -> almonds I heard almonds are good right
536.62 -> even Brazil nuts oftentimes Brazil nuts
538.93 -> are cited as something that's good for
540.76 -> the heart you know it's kind of
543.43 -> overwhelming to hear you know even like
545.65 -> not the coffee you don't take away the
547.48 -> coffee you're taking away my coffee
548.95 -> right um I'm sure you get this a lot it
551.95 -> must be difficult having such tight data
555.19 -> but that all stops when they suddenly
556.93 -> find that especially the patients who
559.45 -> come with chest pain angina and suddenly
562.15 -> they find out when four or five or six
564.31 -> days their chest pain is diminishing and
567.19 -> going away why why am I so tough on nuts
572.14 -> you'll see a number of paid papers out
573.97 -> in the scientific literature praising
576.34 -> nuts you have to look awfully very
578.68 -> carefully at how this study was designed
580.54 -> and also where was the money coming from
583.36 -> because as the late Arnold Romans has
586.54 -> said that he was formerly the
589.86 -> editor of the New England Journal of
591.91 -> Medicine he said you must be extremely
594.31 -> cautious in reading a paper where the
597.76 -> authorship has a relationship with
600.84 -> industry now the thing about nuts is
604.9 -> interesting you know probably if the
611.05 -> truth were known you can't tell anybody
613.9 -> this but if I were to say that if
616.69 -> suppose I were to say that it was okay
618.55 -> to have three walnut halves on your
621.88 -> cereal that's not what people would
625.36 -> remember they'd say hey I heard
627.73 -> Esselstyn say that nuts are okay so
631.99 -> they'll be in the glove compartment
633.39 -> they'll be in the bathroom they'll be in
635.83 -> the bedroom they'll be in the kitchen
637.3 -> the hallway the dining room at the
639.49 -> workbench they're highly addicting and
642.88 -> it's interesting that I have yet to see
645.1 -> in the scientific literature any group
648.01 -> of patients who are seriously ill with
649.9 -> heart disease where you give them nuts
651.55 -> and peanut butter and cashew sauce and
653.74 -> have their disease ever halt or be
657.04 -> reversed so it's more than just an
659.77 -> omega-3 versus an omega-6 thing omega-3
662.68 -> and omega-6 are sort of essential fatty
665.62 -> acids you will
667.22 -> very likely never be short on omega-6
671.29 -> unlikely to be it short on omega-3 if
673.76 -> you're getting plenty of green leafy
675.17 -> vegetables chia seeds or flaxseed meal
680.98 -> but if you do want to be sure and you
684.68 -> get chest checked and you have the
688.72 -> omega-3 check test and it says you've
692.69 -> got an a' you can either be optimal you
694.82 -> can be borderline or low you can always
698.59 -> take a supplement of omega-3 algae until
702.5 -> you bounce your numbers up whether
704.99 -> you're more optimal so in theory if I
708.65 -> was a very healthy individual that's in
711.41 -> my 30s and 40s in theory I could consume
715.31 -> a very small amount of nuts that would
718.07 -> be healthy but ultimately the
719.75 -> recommendation is yeah I'm not on page
721.79 -> 69 of my books I don't have anything
724.13 -> about patients who are otherwise healthy
726.88 -> against them having notes this is for
729.32 -> patients for heart disease got it
731.53 -> would you um you know I mean I think
736.04 -> about my my Italian friends listening to
739.4 -> you right so it's like no olive oil
741.29 -> no mozzarella no pizza no you can have
743.93 -> all kinds of pizza but you can't have
745.64 -> cheese on it
746.39 -> and you can't have with it they're gonna
749.84 -> be there delicious pizzas vegetable
751.64 -> pizzas so when people call your
753.5 -> recommendations draconian what they're
755.99 -> really what they're really not seeing is
758.48 -> that it actually has results attached to
761.12 -> them no I don't think there's your
762.95 -> colognian at all when you think about it
767.74 -> they are draconian in the in the sense
770.69 -> that they're so powerfully curative the
775.79 -> when somebody calls it severe stricter
778.52 -> draconian that's a look at the foods
782.89 -> that are in our diet and nutrition plan
786.71 -> there's not one food that we're asking
789.44 -> people to eat that they haven't already
791.81 -> eaten throughout their lives the only
794.66 -> thing that they're they are deciding is
796.28 -> their draconian is the fact that we are
798.23 -> asking them to simply
800.93 -> move from that diet the food said if
804.38 -> they continue to eat them will guarantee
805.91 -> that they will become sick ill and
807.86 -> perish from disease
810.35 -> so we're take our joconi and step is to
812.6 -> take it away the killing foods and I
817.1 -> don't think that's true Conan but what
819.17 -> happens with our foot with our diet if
821 -> we were to take our diet to Okinawa the
823.64 -> Okinawans would look at us and say well
826.209 -> it's about time you guys caught on we've
829.13 -> been we've been doing this for centuries
830.779 -> true or false
832.13 -> red meat has the same level of
833.69 -> carcinogenesis as single that's it
837.92 -> that's what that was the famous saying
840.26 -> that came in October of 2015 the World
846.38 -> Health Organization imagine that
848.98 -> representatives from countries
850.64 -> throughout the world
851.93 -> agreed that it was time to label red
856.76 -> meat as having the same level of
858.44 -> carcinogenicity as smoking cigarettes
860.959 -> what a tremendously powerful statement
864.82 -> doctor what about people that say that
866.9 -> fish and fowl chicken are okay is that
871 -> they don't know that they don't know the
872.93 -> science okay so animal protein if
877.22 -> someone's making a choice for chicken
878.779 -> because it's a question of what do you
880.73 -> want to be shot or hung Wow okay and so
891.23 -> so what if I you know if let's say I'm
894.14 -> listening to you right now and then
895.7 -> bought in I'm bought in but there's a
898.85 -> lot of other you know information that
900.29 -> I'm getting lately there are trends
902.029 -> towards intermittent fasting or genetics
905.9 -> related dieting plans or inflammatory
910.55 -> foods I you know there's a lot of trends
913.37 -> that are happening in the world of
914.87 -> nutrition now you've seen them
916.43 -> throughout your career how do you feel
918.38 -> first about intermittent fasting well
921.589 -> you can look if you just want to get
925.089 -> comfortable about it
926.89 -> you ask yourself what do the the rural
930.98 -> Chinese do what do the Okinawa what do
933.5 -> those in Central Africa
934.76 -> they all have intermittent fasting
936.44 -> there's gonna be these fats I don't have
938.96 -> a problem I don't have a problem with
940.79 -> people who want a fast that's not gonna
942.56 -> hurt them as to what they do when they
945.56 -> stop fasting it hurts them I don't have
949.52 -> a problem with that they're different
950.69 -> types of fast we have a situation when
954.85 -> let's say I and this happens all the
957.71 -> time we've got patients who come into
959.3 -> our program and let's say but they come
962.78 -> in they weigh 250 300 350 400 a month or
966.47 -> two ago I had a patient who weighed 500
968.54 -> pounds you know you can't him you know
973.67 -> you got to get to work on that that's
976.21 -> where we we borrowed something from the
978.89 -> National Institutes of Aging about eight
980.96 -> or nine years ago that I think is a very
983.33 -> powerful and very strong addition and
985.31 -> that is they you have to watch it if
990.83 -> they're if they're diabetic because you
992.87 -> don't want them to have a hypoglycemic
994.55 -> episode but we'd like those patients to
997.49 -> have a total water-only fast two days a
1000.37 -> week 24 hours Warford only and that
1004.93 -> really kind of kick-starts the weight
1006.49 -> loss along with the with the plant-based
1009.64 -> diet itself and then they don't go
1011.86 -> through those awkward moments where you
1013.33 -> lose weight they plateau for a number of
1015.79 -> months they get discouraged and then
1017.2 -> they get recidivism and then they end up
1019.09 -> gaining the weight back but if they have
1021.91 -> our program where they are successful
1024.209 -> this really helps them to keep going and
1027.79 -> really achieve the goals that they're
1029.829 -> after I'm hearing you and I and I'm you
1032.5 -> know I personally am totally bought into
1034.06 -> what you're saying um but then you know
1037.36 -> if you walk into a supermarket Market
1039.16 -> and you go to a frozen food section
1040.589 -> there's such that there's such a long
1042.82 -> distance between how we should be eating
1045.22 -> and how we're currently eating
1046.9 -> throughout American society today and
1049.96 -> I'm wondering you know are we destined
1052.57 -> to be addicted to unhealthy food when so
1055.63 -> much unhealthy food processed food fried
1058.69 -> food is around us every day I mean it's
1060.91 -> it seems like such a difficult thing for
1063.4 -> so many people who many of whom are just
1065.53 -> trying to put food on the table you know
1067.39 -> to walk into
1068.45 -> market to see their choices and to not
1070.429 -> choose something that's unhealthy I'm
1074.33 -> curious you know how do you feel about
1076.22 -> compliance I know you're not a
1077.659 -> psychologist but how do you feel about
1079.309 -> compliance in a world where so many the
1082.1 -> choices are so poor and addictive when
1085.1 -> we recently looked up some 200 patients
1089.149 -> who had been through our program for
1091.25 -> close to four years and we found that
1094.789 -> the compliance and adherence when we
1096.559 -> looked it up was about eighty nine point
1098.809 -> three to 90 that's almost 90 percent and
1102.649 -> a number of physicians who often would
1108.649 -> attend our seminar just because they
1110.659 -> want to familiar with it they're really
1113.63 -> quite astounded and often they'll say
1116.51 -> well dr. Esselstyn I've tried your
1118.13 -> approach but I really can I get a
1121.519 -> patient to follow this approach and what
1127.07 -> we find is that why is it that we're
1129.38 -> getting 90% adherence and I think the
1132.799 -> the answer to that quite clearly is that
1137.529 -> we're showing the patient respect how do
1143.779 -> you show a patient respect the only way
1146.929 -> that I know to really show a patient
1149.059 -> respect is to give them our time and
1152.809 -> personally with this seminar that I was
1154.899 -> conducting until the virus hit once a
1157.789 -> month we would have 12 or 14
1159.82 -> participants always with their
1162.409 -> significant other or their spouse in
1165.23 -> attendance which is really happens from
1167.779 -> the doctor at the doctor's office
1169.21 -> because both parties have to know what
1171.679 -> you're asking for and then the seminar
1175.88 -> itself is 6 hours in length these
1179.57 -> patients come in they start at 9 o'clock
1182.33 -> in the morning and we finished about 3
1185.33 -> o'clock in the afternoon they're gonna
1187.97 -> learn all about how they have created
1191.33 -> their disease and precisely how we are
1194.72 -> going to empower them as the locus of
1197.72 -> control to halt and reverse their
1199.519 -> disease why is it six hours
1202.09 -> because in six hours they're going to
1204.32 -> learn all the details of this they get a
1209.51 -> very hefty notebook that is a copy of
1212.18 -> every PowerPoint slide that I use they
1215.69 -> have a copy of several of our scientific
1217.85 -> articles of 44 page handout with many
1220.25 -> additional recipes that add to the 240
1223.43 -> which will be in the two books that we
1224.81 -> provide them there's a marvelous hour
1228.83 -> and a quarter from a woman who was at 33
1231.65 -> years acquiring plant-based nutrition
1235.3 -> showing how to deal with restaurants
1237.62 -> travel and everybody receives the DVD of
1242.84 -> the entire seminar so that when they go
1245.12 -> home and get forgetful or rusty they can
1247.07 -> flip this on and get the muscles up back
1248.96 -> up to speed then we always have two or
1252.83 -> three local or regional participants
1256.01 -> who've had a previous successful
1257.42 -> experience share their story with those
1260.54 -> in attendance who can then say to
1261.95 -> themselves listen if he or she can do
1264.8 -> this I can do this and then we have an
1272.42 -> opportunity to answer everybody's
1273.95 -> questions we have a plant-based luncheon
1276.44 -> and then stay in touch is necessary
1278.51 -> through email or phone call but I only
1280.01 -> see since these patients come from
1282.62 -> throughout the United States ninety
1285.11 -> percent are outside the state of Ohio or
1287.14 -> from throughout Canada or from overseas
1290.75 -> I get them once so I have really got to
1294.2 -> have make this six hours very imperative
1297.53 -> and meaningful and also to show them
1301.19 -> respect I asked my secretary who will
1305.12 -> give me two weeks before the seminar she
1307.22 -> will present me with a list of everybody
1310.58 -> who's coming plus their telephone number
1314.8 -> and I and then will call every one of
1318.92 -> these patients myself beforehand so I
1322.46 -> can get my arms around their story and
1325.01 -> at the same time present them with an
1328.28 -> opportunity to ask questions of me so
1331.67 -> they're coming to the seminar we already
1333.53 -> have a strong platform from
1335.549 -> we can all move forward and really with
1338.46 -> all due respect to my fellow physicians
1340.379 -> who say that's unsuccessful if you think
1343.86 -> that you're gonna get somebody to change
1345.36 -> their lifestyle in a 12 or 15 minute
1348.33 -> offices that without the spouse not
1353.19 -> gonna happen and and I must say that
1357.389 -> where I think we really throw the hook
1359.19 -> and I spend at least an hour on the
1364.169 -> endothelial cell and it's the gas that
1368.399 -> it produc produces nitric oxide which is
1370.619 -> the great salvation and protection of
1373.559 -> all our blood vessels can you imagine
1377.1 -> somebody who has been with us for six
1379.08 -> hours who understands what I've said
1382.409 -> about the endothelial cell and nitric
1386.879 -> oxide how could they possibly look me in
1389.489 -> the eye and say dr. Esselstyn Lois and I
1391.83 -> are going to have our 35th wedding
1394.409 -> anniversary in a couple of weeks and boy
1397.679 -> am I going to destroy my few remaining
1399.629 -> endothelial cells what not going to
1403.619 -> happen
1404.19 -> so you provide them with a with this
1407.009 -> message and and enough science in the
1410.759 -> vocabulary that they can grasp and get
1413.19 -> their arms around and I think that's why
1415.619 -> we have we have that degree of success
1419.519 -> I'd like to have it be even better
1422.489 -> I like that would be 95 to 100% it's a
1425.58 -> it's a tough sell because everywhere
1427.559 -> that these people have been going
1429.239 -> through all their lives anytime you're
1432.029 -> in any gathering there's always food and
1435.09 -> it's always the food that's going to
1436.44 -> destroy endothelial cells doctor we
1438.629 -> talks about the things that people
1439.59 -> should avoid and the light of you know
1442.559 -> knowledge is power let's try and inspire
1445.679 -> people like what should we be eating I
1447.779 -> would start with all these marvelous
1449.45 -> whole whil a whole grains whole grain
1453.96 -> and figure pasta bread rolls bagels
1457.889 -> bagels and so forth a hundred and one
1460.649 -> different types of legumes metals and
1462.6 -> beans all these marvelous red yellow and
1465.45 -> green leafy vegetables and some
1469.52 -> sweet potatoes white potatoes and some
1472.11 -> fruit and you know in in in my book and
1476.01 -> the one by my wife and my daughter to
1477.69 -> prevent and reverse heart disease
1478.83 -> cookbook and in books by John McDougall
1481.2 -> and Neil Barnard I mean there are
1482.76 -> hundreds of wonderful recipes that are
1486.86 -> available
1488.19 -> you've been advocating for a plant-based
1489.69 -> diet since 1984 as I recall there's
1493.8 -> there's a story that you like to share
1494.91 -> about you know being at a dinner for
1497.24 -> doctors and they gave you a big steak
1499.89 -> and you didn't want it anymore how do
1502.29 -> you feel about this new era and
1504.21 -> plant-based nutrition nowadays there's a
1507.03 -> lot more news about it there's a lot
1508.8 -> more adherence people are kind of waking
1512.22 -> up to the idea that you know eating
1516.05 -> eating plant-based formerly known as
1518.94 -> vegan is the right way to go how do you
1521.79 -> feel about this new era and I'm also
1523.68 -> curious about how you feel about the
1526.53 -> labeling plant-based I treat vegans for
1529.14 -> heart disease vegans will eat oil vegans
1532.98 -> will eat french fries vegans will eat
1535.92 -> glazed doughnuts the terminology whole
1539.88 -> food plant-based nutrition really in
1543.12 -> capsules exactly what we are driving
1546.06 -> striving for there's one thing I want to
1547.92 -> be sure in case some of your listeners
1550.23 -> have heart disease that we've been using
1552.54 -> for the last eight or nine years it's
1554.94 -> not in the book but it's it's so
1556.95 -> important and that is if I have somebody
1561.06 -> who has heart disease they have
1563.28 -> blockages in the coronary arteries to
1565.56 -> the heart and I asked them to try to
1568.8 -> imagine shrinking their brain to a size
1573.24 -> that they could actually crawl inside
1575.85 -> that artery they would see that the
1577.32 -> blockage is an absolute cauldron of
1580.68 -> oxidative inflammation so we need
1584.87 -> antioxidants but no do not go down to
1588.18 -> the health food store and buy a jug of
1589.74 -> pills that says antioxidant because it
1591.81 -> doesn't work and it's gonna be harmful I
1593.31 -> need them to get their antioxidants from
1595.41 -> food fair enough what food food that is
1598.98 -> high in what we call ORAC value o RAC
1602.759 -> oxygen radical absorbance capacity so
1606.179 -> this means that if you're having out
1607.469 -> raspberries blueberries strawberries and
1609.479 -> blackberries on your morning oat cereal
1611.129 -> that is a terrific start however nothing
1614.299 -> nothing nothing nothing can trump the
1616.799 -> antioxidant value of green leafy
1618.509 -> vegetables so I need these patients to
1620.729 -> chew not smoothies not juicing to chew a
1624.69 -> green leafy vegetable six times a day
1628.369 -> after it has first been boiled in water
1631.139 -> five and a half to six minutes or
1633.149 -> steamed so it's nice and tender then you
1635.159 -> must must then anoint it with several
1639.089 -> drops of a delightful balsamic vinegar
1641.159 -> why because it's the acetic acid in the
1644.129 -> vinegar that will restore the nitric
1646.589 -> oxide synthase enzyme which is the
1650.399 -> enzyme contained within the endothelial
1653.249 -> cell responsible for making nitric oxide
1656.749 -> now therefore you're gonna choo-choo
1661.44 -> this alongside your breakfast cereal
1663.69 -> again as a mid-morning snack again with
1666.539 -> your luncheon sandwich that's three
1669.469 -> mid-afternoon for dinner time five and
1674.219 -> of course I adore it when you have that
1676.739 -> evening snack of kale what are you doing
1679.44 -> all day long
1681.119 -> you were absolutely bathing that
1683.069 -> horrible oxidative cauldron of
1685.079 -> inflammation with nature's most powerful
1686.759 -> anti antioxidants and at the same time
1690.479 -> you're helping to restore the
1691.919 -> endothelial capacity to make nitric
1694.049 -> oxide however well the second thing that
1697.619 -> showing the greens does showing the
1701.789 -> greens will restore the capacity of your
1705.329 -> bone marrow to once again make the
1707.989 -> endothelial progenitor cells what do
1710.759 -> they do they replace our senescent
1713.609 -> injured worn-out endothelial cells now
1719.279 -> the third thing and this is so important
1722.839 -> the third thing that showing the greens
1725.339 -> does when you are chewing the greens you
1729.539 -> are chewing a nitrate as you chew that
1733.499 -> nitrate it is going to mix with the
1735.659 -> facultative
1736.62 -> anaerobic bacteria that reside in the
1741.809 -> crypts and grooves of your tongue those
1744.6 -> bacteria are going to reduce those
1748.29 -> nitrates that you are chewing to
1751.65 -> nitrites now when you swallow the
1754.71 -> nitrites it is your own gastric acid
1757.65 -> which is going to further reduce the
1759.99 -> nitrites to more nitric oxide so there
1765.15 -> you are literally morning to dusk all
1769.08 -> day long
1770.19 -> you are absolutely restoring nitric
1773.52 -> oxide the very molecule the deficiency
1777.63 -> of which gave you this disease in the
1779.61 -> first place now there are some caveats
1784.2 -> here one you can't use mouthwash or
1791.84 -> antibiotics because they will destroy
1794.48 -> the beneficial bacteria in your mouth
1797.3 -> and be careful of any antacids because
1800.94 -> an ass's will reduce the amount of
1802.83 -> acidity in your stomach and you'll not
1805.62 -> be able to convert the nitrites to more
1808.32 -> nitric oxide now what are the green
1810.33 -> leafy vegetables I'm talking about they
1812.22 -> are ready bok choy Swiss chard kale
1815.67 -> collards color green beet greens mustard
1817.71 -> greens turnip greens napa cabbage
1819.15 -> brussel sprouts broccoli cauliflower
1820.47 -> cilantro parsley spinach and arugula and
1822.72 -> asparagus and the top five are kale
1826.17 -> Swiss chard spinach arugula and beets
1830.82 -> and look what it does for your memory
1832.91 -> next question for you currently in the
1836.55 -> United States by the time that one
1837.929 -> graduates high school they have the
1839.309 -> foundation for heart disease right many
1843.15 -> out there might be listening to this and
1845.79 -> thinking well I'm healthy I don't need
1847.47 -> to do this right like six times a day
1849.57 -> that sounds kind of crazy and it's like
1851.61 -> eating green leafy vegetables I can get
1853.95 -> away with a burger on the weekends right
1856.2 -> are we all a little bit unaware of our
1860.94 -> current state of health of what's
1862.38 -> happening inside like how much you know
1865.17 -> it's it's it's kind of when I first read
1867.84 -> that statistic I thought
1869.36 -> absolutely crazy that there could be
1871.07 -> this is a this is a very very very
1874.22 -> sickly country when public health
1876.14 -> experts outline the multiple things that
1880.19 -> people are due to get their health
1882.11 -> you get exercise very few Americans to
1885.74 -> getting it regularly all right you see
1887.75 -> lots of it on television but very few
1889.94 -> people are getting the appropriate
1891.62 -> amount of exercise sleep no matter of
1896.72 -> fact be sure you want to avoid sleep
1899.12 -> apnea they're getting plenty of
1902.59 -> socialization and most importantly of
1905.66 -> all of the eating plant-based I mean
1909.26 -> this is what we have an epidemic of
1911.66 -> chronic illness you know here we are
1914.09 -> talking about cardiovascular disease
1916.01 -> however if we look carefully
1921.34 -> cardiovascular disease is not the only
1923.57 -> disease we're treating with plant-based
1925.07 -> nutrition you're getting rid of diabetes
1927.62 -> you're getting rid of obesity you're
1930.29 -> getting rid of hypertension you're
1932.03 -> getting rid of vascular dementia you're
1934.61 -> decreasing the license likelihood of any
1936.62 -> kind of Alzheimer's disease and then
1940.37 -> that of course you're helping yourself
1942.17 -> be protected from ulcerative colitis
1944.51 -> Crohn's disease rheumatoid arthritis
1947.62 -> lupus multiple sclerosis allergies
1952.22 -> asthma I mean the list goes on and on
1954.32 -> the heavens have opened up and given
1956.81 -> this profession the most powerful tool
1959.96 -> ever that we've had in our toolbox so so
1964.19 -> people are a lot more sick than they
1966.29 -> realize well obviously when you when you
1970.97 -> think about the progression of this we
1972.53 -> said you know you don't see much in a
1974.15 -> way of any heart disease at age seven or
1975.95 -> eight but by the time you get autopsy if
1978.71 -> you're a late teenager or early twenties
1980.84 -> you've already got the foundation of the
1982.64 -> disease and not therefore there's not a
1985.82 -> great surprise that by the time people
1988.34 -> in their 40s we now start seeing the
1990.23 -> clinical cardiac events or the heart
1991.88 -> attack and stroke many are worried about
1994.15 -> switching to Whole Foods plant-based
1995.96 -> diet because they don't they're unaware
1998.03 -> of how to achieve the nutrition required
2000.7 -> for a
2002.74 -> child who's growing children need more
2005.53 -> fat it's interesting that when the late
2008.53 -> Bill Connor went down to northern Mexico
2012.61 -> and he studied the Tarahumara Indians
2016.77 -> the Tarahumara Indians eat the three
2022.27 -> sisters beans corn and squash no
2029.429 -> nutritional deficiencies no nutritional
2034.78 -> deficiencies they are absolutely
2037.45 -> champion athletes and runners now if
2041.95 -> people sensibly have a whole grain
2045.34 -> cereal in the morning you know with
2049.629 -> maybe a few raisins a banana and
2053.919 -> raspberries blueberries strawberries and
2055.96 -> blackberries and at lunch time you can
2059.29 -> have in the wintertime you can have a
2060.76 -> soup in which you put every conceivable
2063.639 -> kind of vegetable in greens they can be
2065.77 -> delicious
2068.5 -> and then of course my favorite for
2073.419 -> supper is beans and rice with all the
2077.53 -> various cut-up and vegetables with their
2079.96 -> peas and corn and kind of peppers and
2082.649 -> chestnuts and it's you've got an
2086.59 -> absolute feast and it's delicious way to
2090.28 -> eat and you're not and you're not gonna
2092.409 -> be protein deficient as a matter of fact
2094.56 -> if your listeners have seen that the
2097.51 -> movie the game changers you'll never see
2101.95 -> this incredible athletic specimens
2104.76 -> muscles bulging everywhere the strongest
2107.44 -> man on the planet the German babudi a
2109.89 -> plant-based yeah and you would know
2114.16 -> about that because you were an Olympic
2115.51 -> rower thank you next question you know
2120.88 -> now nowadays your business is not just
2124.18 -> your own your family's very involved
2125.94 -> it's really incredible to see your son
2128.68 -> out there advocating your white now that
2133.63 -> kind of you know again moving it
2136.39 -> forward into this new era I mean back
2139.029 -> when you back in 1984 this message is a
2141.7 -> lot harder to get out there than it is
2143.319 -> now right
2144.97 -> and so you know where do you see the
2147.64 -> current nutrition movement you know are
2152.859 -> you excited about it I mean you just
2154.24 -> cited the game-changers that's a new
2155.799 -> documentary that's been making a lot of
2157.269 -> a lot of rounds right so how do you how
2161.769 -> do you feel about the current nutrition
2163.69 -> movement the next generation in light of
2167.589 -> all that we know now you know you cannot
2171.069 -> even begin to compare the difference
2175.98 -> thirty-four years ago wouldn't today I I
2179.64 -> got very excited about this and in 1991
2183.519 -> I put together with what I thought was
2187.089 -> really a a blue-ribbon panel of
2191.46 -> physicians and I entitled the conference
2194.89 -> the first national conference on the
2196.599 -> elimination of coronary artery disease
2200.769 -> and we had a hundred people but the
2206.109 -> speakers were great we had a couple from
2208.269 -> Boston dr. Ornish was there colin
2211.42 -> campbell was there Castelli was there
2215.849 -> dr. Alexander was there that and it was
2222.279 -> really kind of exciting and I thought
2224.349 -> boy this is this is a way to do it but
2226.619 -> nothing nothing happened and that eating
2232.45 -> is such an ingrained situation so we had
2236.44 -> another one in nineteen this time in
2238.769 -> 1997 we had 500 people and it was really
2243.99 -> well received and again it was kind of
2250.69 -> slow but something somewhat after that
2253.23 -> as we moved into the early 2000s you
2258.819 -> know Ornish came out with his data we
2262.15 -> came out with our data suddenly that it
2265.509 -> was possible for this disease to be
2268.269 -> halted
2269.46 -> and excitingly even reversed but the
2273.44 -> thing that was holding it back was it
2275.79 -> physicians never learned about any of
2277.92 -> this in medical school I was it was very
2282.119 -> bizarre but I should share with you the
2284.91 -> next month I've been asked to speak to
2288.45 -> Harvard Medical School and this will be
2292.02 -> my third visit to Harvard and there are
2296.339 -> some very important people there who I
2299.099 -> think are beginning to realize the the
2302.7 -> efficacy of this because it's it's just
2305.76 -> so hard for physicians to still now make
2308.64 -> the transition to think that that
2312.45 -> brussel sprouts and broccoli which have
2316.53 -> never been designed by a great
2318.63 -> pharmaceutical company they're just
2320.81 -> simply been designed by the ground out
2323.43 -> of us from a seed would be so powerful
2327.74 -> as plants and increasingly as there is
2334.68 -> an awareness that we should eat to avoid
2337.53 -> any injury to the endothelium this will
2341.04 -> this will really help to turn this
2343.349 -> around you know the I think what also is
2347.25 -> going to happen is that there's been a
2350.22 -> basic covenant of trust since the days
2353.79 -> of Hippocrates that whenever possible
2356.58 -> the care giver meaning the physician
2358.68 -> will share with the patient what is the
2363.48 -> causation of the illness and sadly today
2366.96 -> in cardiovascular medicine that was not
2369.72 -> being done but I think increasingly
2372.109 -> there is that developing awareness and
2375.33 -> that it will begin to to happen
2379.14 -> we have several now absolutely stunning
2385.07 -> examples of an angiogram which shows
2388.53 -> that blockage in the artery and then as
2392.25 -> these patients have gone into whole food
2395.31 -> plant-based nutrition and they've had
2396.839 -> subsequent follow-up angiogram if you
2400.02 -> can see that area of narrowing begin
2403.39 -> in enlarge for those who have had older
2406.54 -> plaques that have now filled up with
2409.9 -> scar and calcification and they won't go
2411.91 -> away even those patients amazingly
2417.24 -> develop such strong flow at her ization
2420.75 -> and as well as opening up much wider all
2426.19 -> those vessels that are in the heart
2427.96 -> muscle
2428.67 -> even though older patients just have an
2432.01 -> enormous benefit from this this approach
2434.92 -> dr. it must be funny kind of going to
2437.8 -> you know being interviewed for news
2440.44 -> channels going to events and always
2442.9 -> running into your friends so T Colin
2445.27 -> Campbell dr. Ornish dr. Greger who are
2448.9 -> some researchers and people in the field
2451.96 -> that you wish we would all kind of know
2454.75 -> a little bit more about whether it's you
2457.6 -> know someone who might not be us-based
2459.64 -> or any-any women within the US you know
2464.86 -> that have been doing this type of
2466.45 -> research for a while or is it are we
2468.94 -> really just at the beginning and you
2471.25 -> know oh no there's a wonderful if you
2476.68 -> just look at the American College of
2479.56 -> Cardiology the nutrition committee four
2482.95 -> years ago I was invited by the American
2488.74 -> College of Cardiology to become a member
2490.59 -> because they wanted me to join their
2492.61 -> nutrition committee which I have done
2495.36 -> and it's really a glowing group of
2499.24 -> people who are totally committed to
2501.37 -> plant-based nutrition
2502.53 -> who it's very empowering to be a part of
2508.93 -> that group and it really gives you a
2513.55 -> great sense of pride and and reassurance
2519.91 -> that that this is eventually going to
2524.38 -> get there because you know right now
2527.26 -> this poor nation is being drawn into
2530.73 -> debtors prison now it's really been
2534.58 -> accelerated by this virus obviously the
2536.99 -> for then we have social security which
2539.84 -> is fine then we have Medicaid and
2542.21 -> Medicare Medicare is an enormous expense
2546.56 -> for this nation what do you think is
2549.77 -> forty-five percent of Medicare
2554.26 -> cardiology all the drugs all the imaging
2558.47 -> all the procedures the bypasses the
2561.89 -> status all these things cost enormous
2566.21 -> amounts of money and yet they these this
2570.619 -> is a disease that doesn't even exist and
2574.07 -> a half the planet with all the news
2575.84 -> around covin 19 right now you find that
2579.89 -> people if we all were eating a lot
2583.07 -> better Whole Foods plant-based diets it
2586.52 -> would be in a much better position when
2588.2 -> it would come to fighting this virus
2591.11 -> right it's very easy to state right at
2594.98 -> the outset that if people have a strong
2599.21 -> immune system they might do much better
2601.73 -> I'm convinced that that's probably the
2604.04 -> case but there may be something in the
2606.74 -> genetics of our immune system that is
2610.67 -> different in all of us that we respond
2612.98 -> differently to the wife because there
2614.51 -> are some people who literally have had
2618.88 -> koban 19 coronavirus and they never even
2623.18 -> knew it there testing positive or they
2627.29 -> tested is with antibodies knowing that
2629.27 -> they've had it others is mild and others
2632.66 -> it obviously is very crippling and
2635.75 -> others it actually kills them but one of
2641.51 -> the things that's been fascinating is
2643.3 -> that from data when the SARS virus was
2649.28 -> around it was made aware that somehow
2653.119 -> the gas nitric oxide was very capable of
2659.29 -> injuring the virus and so the
2664.55 -> Massachusetts General Hospital has
2667.309 -> taking that information talk to heart
2669.65 -> and they have started two studies one
2674.059 -> study where there are identifying
2679.369 -> patients with coronavirus where they
2683.179 -> three times a day
2684.859 -> have them inhale for 30 minutes nitric
2688.519 -> oxide morning noon and late afternoon
2692.209 -> early evening and they want to see if
2695.9 -> they can shorten the course of the
2702.109 -> illness in these patients and the other
2705.469 -> study they're doing they're taking
2707.239 -> health care workers
2708.619 -> we're very susceptible to developing and
2712.339 -> inquiring this disease because of their
2714.14 -> exposure and they're giving them
2717.249 -> inhalations of nitric oxide 30 minutes
2719.959 -> when they come to work 30 minutes when
2722.209 -> they leave and it would be fascinating
2724.099 -> and and that I wrote a little editorial
2728.179 -> like piece about nitric oxide and Kirke
2732.159 -> coronavirus because I feel that if if
2736.309 -> people will eat in a way that you keep
2742.249 -> your nitric oxide levels very very high
2744.789 -> and you do that especially by eating the
2749.719 -> green leafy vegetables that have he
2751.519 -> mentioned six times a day for heart
2753.859 -> disease well it's six times a day to try
2756.259 -> to because if if a virus tries to infect
2759.38 -> your windpipe or trachea because energy
2762.499 -> and you're making plenty of nitric oxide
2766.209 -> the the hope is that that will greatly
2769.909 -> diminish the likelihood that you will
2773.9 -> acquire the disease or if acquired it
2777.199 -> may mitigate against the intensity of
2781.009 -> the disease is this why is this why
2783.89 -> you're still doing what you're doing I
2786.259 -> mean I feel like a lot of your friends
2787.999 -> at this point must be like you know it's
2789.559 -> time for me to relax been there done
2792.019 -> that but you know you're still talking
2793.88 -> to me right now you're still running
2795.919 -> seminars you're still writing op-eds is
2799.039 -> it you know is it because
2800.81 -> you see such a distance between where
2802.58 -> we're at in the United States and where
2804.26 -> we could be I mean what kind of driving
2806.9 -> you at this point to continue to put in
2809.87 -> this much time and effort into spreading
2813.14 -> this message I mean you know are you
2814.63 -> listening to you add a lot all of the
2817.4 -> all the leafy greens that we should eat
2820.25 -> I mean you've certainly said that so
2822.29 -> many times countless times I've actually
2824.09 -> felt kind of guilty asking you to say
2825.86 -> that again you know what what's driving
2830.57 -> you at this point doctor because you
2832.28 -> know you've written the book you
2834.14 -> literally wrote the book on preventing
2835.94 -> reversing heart disease oh where are you
2839.9 -> like you know you did so much why why do
2844.31 -> you feel this need to continue well I
2847.7 -> because I think it's the kind of the
2851.06 -> reason I guess I went into medicine in
2853.07 -> the first place is that maybe you would
2856.28 -> be able to help out and I suddenly after
2859.49 -> a surgical career it became too obvious
2863.15 -> to me that why are you gonna help people
2865.7 -> wanted one at a time it was something
2869.78 -> like surgery when you are able to get
2874.22 -> information out about changing nutrition
2878.33 -> that will advance
2880.27 -> 80% of chronic disease I mean what you
2884.63 -> talk about getting bang for the buck
2886.49 -> I mean it's so an enormous where you
2890.12 -> would if it all worked out right you
2892.13 -> would you would save the planet as well
2894.05 -> as saving lives throughout the world and
2897.49 -> it's it's been very exciting when I've
2900.32 -> had a chance to travel to Singapore to
2904.34 -> China to Denmark to Iceland but I would
2909.89 -> I would simply have to say that I think
2912.95 -> the right now I guess it's because I
2917.75 -> really visualize in front of us what I
2922.73 -> call the the seismic revolution in
2926.51 -> health and the seismic revolution in
2929.15 -> health is never going to come about with
2933.02 -> another pill
2934.32 -> another procedure another operation the
2939.61 -> seismic revolution in health will come
2941.68 -> about when we in the profession have the
2944.44 -> will and the grit and the determination
2946.15 -> to share with the public what is the
2948.25 -> lifestyle and most specifically what is
2951.07 -> the nutritional literacy that will
2953.41 -> empower them to absolutely annihilate
2956.56 -> illness and disease
2965.4 -> you
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