Table Talk: Healthy Habits, Episode 2
Table Talk: Healthy Habits, Episode 2
This latest edition of Table Talk features FC Barcelona guard Kyle Kuric, Spanish break-dancer Ana ‘Furia’ Ortega, ex-EuroLeague player Patric Young, MotoGP™ star Maverick Viñales, newly-designated Hall of Famer Pau Gasol and Anadolu Efes Istanbul dietician Buket Mamur
The term “healthy habits” is often related to food and a person’s diet, but as former professional basketball player Patric Young puts it, healthy habits are “attached to some type of goal or identity, who we want to be as people, and habits are… they’re hard to create. They take discipline.”
In the latest Table Talk documentary by Euroleague Basketball Originals, four individuals who are playing or have played sport at the highest level came together to engage in an informed discussion about the importance of healthy habits and how this applies to the wider population at large.
Watch Episode 1 at: • Table Talk: Healthy Habits, Episode 1
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34.68 -> We come from a family and parents
that work in the health sector,
38.404 -> so I've always felt that health
is the most important thing.
44.92 -> If you're healthy, you're active,
you're going to be able to learn more, absorb more
50.311 -> and have more energy and so forth,
52.924 -> so it had to be around health.
56.408 -> And then it also, when we started talking with Marc
about creating our own foundation and what should be the cause,
63.621 -> let's see what the biggest threat
that children are exposed to today,
67.162 -> and we looked at childhood obesity
72.259 -> and how that was alarmingly growing in the world,
77 -> not just in the United States,
not just in America, but all over.
81.702 -> What does that mean?
Okay, well let's reinforce healthy habits.
86.779 -> That's why we started it
and that's why we said, 'Okay, let's protect children.'
90.444 -> Let's give them the tools,
especially the most vulnerable.
95.087 -> I think this is always going to be important, no matter what.
98.45 -> It is now, it is going to be in 20 years,
it is going to be in 50 years, it is going to be in 100 years.
103.849 -> How do you protect the well-being of communities,
of children, of our future?
110.089 -> How do you protect health?
134.555 -> Now we're going to be moving on to our next subject.
137.021 -> What would you say in terms of routines about being flexible?
140.912 -> Do you think that helps you out
in terms of being able to adapt to different situations?
145.178 -> It's not easy to be able to change quick
when you have a routine.
149.426 -> For example, in Spain, we're used to having lunch very late,
153.981 -> but in another place, that's not the case. So, you go
at 7pm or 8pm somewhere and everything is closed.
158.799 -> It's just learning to be flexible based on your environment.
162.125 -> I was always super worried about it,
and now I am travelling a lot…
168.455 -> I'm vegetarian, so it's really hard for me. Super hard.
173.09 -> Especially when you travel.
174.192 -> Exactly. Honestly, I am learning.
176.388 -> I am still learning how to do it. It's really hard.
180.019 -> You have to snap out of the things that you can't control
183.307 -> and say, 'Alright, what can I control in this moment and do?'
186.449 -> But, I did have some teammates
that were so strict on their superstitions,
190.337 -> like every little detail,
and if it messed them up, they were shook.
195.446 -> Yeah, it's crazy. I always believe
that control the controllables, but also not paralysis by analysis.
201.632 -> So, if you overanalyze, you become tense, you can't perform.
204.998 -> You need to be relaxed
when you're trying to do your event and do your sport,
208.587 -> so if you're overthinking
and you've got that in the back of your mind,
211.205 -> you can't really get into your event and fully experience it.
214.944 -> So, I do feel that yes, be flexible and control what you can,
218.979 -> but always be adaptable.
220.649 -> When you go to a different country, you don't know
what's going to be available, and I said to myself,
224.873 -> 'What can I eat that's going to fit that need?'
227.701 -> Pizza, right?
230.231 -> If you're going to be running a marathon, you need good energy
and pizza is something wherever you go in the world,
235.295 -> - you can get…
- Or Caesar salad.
236.49 -> Exactly, right? Always at the hotel, there it is. And yourself?
243.053 -> For me, discipline unlocks freedom.
247.411 -> My family and wife, we have…
250.313 -> Monday through Saturday we're strict,
and then Sunday is our day where, as a family, we just relax.
257.299 -> And it's a really cool thing that we've started doing
with my daughter… the whole family.
262.246 -> We didn’t want to make it feel like chores,
but it's a responsibility list.
266.108 -> It's full of all the things
that we're intending to get done that week,
270.1 -> and the person that checks off the most
and has the highest percentage
274.015 -> chooses what we eat for lunch on Sunday.
276.458 -> There's that reward at the end of it. Good.
280.111 -> Coming onto injuries and recovery now, and talking
about how healthy habits accommodate for that,
289.115 -> how have you found
that you've managed to maintain your healthy habits
293.214 -> when, if you've been injured
or you're not with your teammates and trying to recover?
297.98 -> Obviously, with yourself, Kyle,
with the surgery you had back in 2015.
302.415 -> I think the surgery's changed me in more ways than just that.
307.254 -> It changed me professionally and personally.
309.604 -> It really was kind of a wake-up call to:
312.742 -> I can't keep putting things off in the future.
314.989 -> So, I was playing for a good team,
I was making decent money,
318.368 -> but my goal was to become a good player
on one of the best teams in Europe.
323.307 -> And I was like, 'I'll do that in a couple of years,
I'll get there, I'll get there.'
326.867 -> And then, all of a sudden, boom:
I have surgery, you're not going to play for a year.
330.62 -> Wow, okay.
332.636 -> It really kind of starts you thinking.
335.354 -> So, from that, I changed the way I ate,
I changed the way I trained,
338.13 -> the way I practiced, the way I approached the game,
and then it changed me personally.
342.155 -> All that stuff really kind of,
I took a very negative thing, a very stressful situation,
347.819 -> and tried to turn it around
and make it a positive influence in my life.
351.585 -> Now that I'm in a situation where this injury
that I've had is affecting my quality of life,
357.277 -> having my sister and my mom and my wife say,
360.449 -> 'Hey, we don’t care if you ever put a ball in the hoop again.
We love you for you,'
364.723 -> that already helped me mentally.
367.468 -> But this has forced me to discover
so much more about myself.
372.924 -> Like, who am I when I'm not this physical,
large specimen of a person
378.872 -> that everyone has known me as before?
382.827 -> But I realized that nothing changes
how I show up as a husband, as a dad, as a friend.
389.293 -> An injury like this affects your quality of life
and you're not prepared for that,
394.073 -> you really have to look in the mirror
because you can go one of two ways with this,
398.128 -> and I'm just so grateful
that I've gone more towards the positive side.
401.332 -> Yeah, that's really good. Really good.
403.808 -> And with yourself, Maverick,
maybe not so much on the physical side, but the mental aspect…
408.458 -> Yeah, it is kind of hard sometimes
to race with I don’t know…
412.34 -> you crash, your shoulder goes out,
they put it back in and you go.
416.316 -> You go on the bike.
418.051 -> Do you try and block that out of your mind if that happens?
420.777 -> I think the adrenaline helps you a lot,
423.612 -> because I remember one time I broke my hand,
428.037 -> so I went back to racing and, yeah,
430.574 -> I think that adrenaline and all the motivation
allows you to ride with the pain.
438.56 -> And, coming to the point where you first got into breakdancing,
443.078 -> there was a case where you suffered with anorexia.
447.347 -> How did that affect your performance?
How did you relate the two together?
453.155 -> A lot of voices told me, 'Yo, you look super ugly today.
You look super fatty' or something,
459.171 -> and this made me feel like, 'Damn,
I can't dance with these things in my head'
465.685 -> because I was super blocked, so…
468.496 -> - A constant battle going on.
- Exactly.
470.151 -> So, after that, I realized that I can't keep doing this
474.144 -> because I need to choose
if I really want to keep dancing, I need to stop this.
480.81 -> I need to go outside and dance, because…
483.596 -> I don't know why,
but something inside was like, 'I want to dance.'
487.373 -> It was not focused on another thing,
488.971 -> just my mind was like,
'I want to dance, I want to dance.'
490.936 -> Is that easy to maintain now
or do you still feel like it's there?
494.965 -> You know, when you have some problems,
it's always a little voice,
498.004 -> and when you are down,
in general in your life or for other things,
501.932 -> sometimes this voice comes to you.
504.224 -> With the passing of time, you control this.
506.365 -> But, I learned to say,
'Okay, shut up. I don't care what you say.'
522.985 -> Here we have a cheese platter and some greens...
525.896 -> My name is Buket Mamur,
I have been a dietician for 24 years
532.248 -> and this is my ninth season with Anadolu Efes.
535.399 -> I'm in the health team,
537.477 -> so my main aim is to help them to stay healthy
545.166 -> and boost their performance at the same time.
548.543 -> - Do you mind if I use this paper?
- No.
550.434 -> OK, then I'm writing it down.
552.135 -> - What was the soup today?
- Mushroom vermicelli soup.
555.418 -> Vermicelli... But do we put the vermicelli in then?
557.629 -> Well, nutrition is important to live, to survive,
560.625 -> so you can't move if you don't eat, first of all.
563.723 -> At the very basic level.
565.829 -> And fatigue is the worst enemy of an athlete;
570.368 -> you can be very talented, but if you don't have
the required energy level, you can't play.
578.349 -> And when you are tired,
your decision-making system is also affected,
586.456 -> so keeping the energy levels high
is our main issue about performance nutrition.
603.724 -> In order to make a player change their habits,
607.156 -> first they need something.
609.686 -> For example, are they performing bad
or is there a warning to them?
613.972 -> They don't change any habits when everything is fine.
617.774 -> If they believe that they are going to benefit from that change,
and if they see a change, they continue.
627.581 -> For the popular diets that the players ask me,
631.332 -> do you think ketogenic is fine
or should I go vegan? Or stuff like that
636.012 -> And we make an assessment together.
639.022 -> I'd tell them the pros and the cons of the diet,
I'd tell them the benefits,
644.306 -> and usually when you speak about diet
it's about body composition,
649.312 -> but I always remind the players that,
at the professional level,
654.552 -> you usually don't have any body composition problems.
657.693 -> The problem is to fight with fatigue,
661.905 -> to keep the energy levels high,
to keep the muscle tissue strong
670.03 -> and to stay healthy.
676.472 -> And I can imagine, in your sport,
weight plays a big role in terms of being on the bike.
681.646 -> Is there anything that you've practiced
in the past that has helped or not helped?
686.515 -> Well, actually, a few times a different kind of diet,
690.363 -> trying to get the maximum out of your body.
693.196 -> Actually, a fasting diet, ketogenic diet.
698.318 -> Yeah, for three or four months it was great
and I felt really powerful,
701.928 -> really ripped, without fat,
and I felt like I had a lot of energy,
705.805 -> but after that everything goes down.
708.698 -> I started to get a lot of stress
on the body and cortisol, especially cortisol,
714.477 -> and all this stuff, so if I have to say something about diet,
it is very particular.
720.757 -> You have to find something that feels great.
723.088 -> For me, Mediterranean food feels good, so I eat fish, meat…
726.384 -> I eat everything which makes me feel good.
729.567 -> And, in terms of recovering from injury,
did your nutrition change at all?
735.279 -> Because obviously, being injured, you're not as active.
738.531 -> Did you adapt it in certain ways?
740.579 -> I did fasting in a different way.
742.783 -> I did intermittent fasting,
where I would skip breakfast and just have coffee.
748.746 -> I'd work out early in the morning
and then I'd eat around 12pm.
752.975 -> Between 12pm and 8pm, I would eat as much
in that time frame, but I was burning…
758.818 -> my metabolism was at a very high level.
761.065 -> I saw good results from that.
762.838 -> And for yourself, Kyle?
764.091 -> So, I kind of went both ways.
766.174 -> After the injury, I lost so much weight so quickly
that I was so skinny and frail that I had to
772.632 -> 1) prove the doctors wrong and get back sooner,
775.83 -> and 2) to do that, I had to build my body back up.
778.902 -> So, I went to the extreme.
781.754 -> I started measuring out the ounces,
the grams of the chicken, the pasta, everything,
786.417 -> just to get all the carbs, the protein and everything
just so that I could build my body back up.
790.889 -> Since then, it's come down a little bit,
but I've kind of stayed along the same line
794.431 -> of making sure I get my protein in,
797.435 -> just so that I can feel full and feel strong,
799.673 -> because that's when I feel at my best
and it's kind of just developed along that way.
803.825 -> Was your wanting to prove the doctors wrong
806.681 -> more so on them saying how long
it would take you to get back or what?
810.881 -> Yeah, so first they said,
'It's going to be at least a year.
812.842 -> If you come back, it's going to be at least a year.'
815.479 -> And, I don’t know if I can say this on camera,
but I told the doctor: 'F… you.'
821.497 -> He said, 'Okay.' And I said, 'You'll see.'
823.382 -> It was five months when I came back,
825.465 -> - so it was…
- Wow.
826.761 -> Did you get to say… Did you go back to him and say…?
828.902 -> Oh, he knows. We still stay in good contact, yeah.
833.095 -> But no, it was to prove it to them,
835.471 -> it was to prove it to myself and it was just…
838.04 -> if you tell me a year, I'm going to do it in less.
840.614 -> You're all elite athletes, some retired, but you've acquired
these healthy habits to help you perform to your best.
849.056 -> Can you see how that could apply to just the general population?
854.469 -> Like you said, you could be an example to the neurosurgeon
who's got someone else coming in saying,
859.653 -> 'This guy, we said 12 months,
he was back in five, possibly down to his healthy habits.'
865.318 -> Can you see how what happens in the elite world
868.247 -> could transfer over to the general public
in terms of being role models,
872.649 -> and do you feel that if they had maybe taught that at schools,
875.938 -> that may have helped?
877.208 -> Do you think that's something that would be a good idea?
879.649 -> It would help,
881.732 -> but I think primarily it is the responsibility of the parents
to help create those scenarios where their kids can learn.
890.915 -> And the thing about all of us, we're just human beings
with passions and we chase that passion.
897.53 -> For regular, everyday people,
899.971 -> we're not doing anything different except chasing our passion
and we just got to a level…
903.633 -> It's just important to realize that life is short
907.585 -> and to just live life casually
without that intention of chasing something,
913.706 -> of going towards a goal…
915.656 -> and you don't have to be perfect.
917.675 -> You don't have to be perfect in it,
but you have to pursue something.
921.186 -> And, to your point that you made, we live now in a generation
where people want things to happen so fast.
929.676 -> For me, I don't know when that breakthrough for me…
933.596 -> when I'm going to start walking or take my first steps,
but in the middle of the process, I can't give up. I can't say,
941.323 -> 'Oh, man, it might take five years from now,
so I'm going to try to shortchange the process.'
945.837 -> We're just normal people that are chasing these things
948.24 -> to the best of our ability and enjoying all of it,
950.854 -> so it's nothing that no one else can't do
in their regular lives as well.
955.384 -> Thank you all so much for coming today.
957.229 -> It's been such a great talk and hearing from you guys,
960.421 -> it's been really good.
961.539 -> I'm sure it will help a lot of people. Thanks very much.
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